From: Muhammad Nasim (muhammad.nasim@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Sep 30 2008 - 16:03:12 ART
But in my case I love teaching I love to give whatever knowledge I have and
whatever also I can learn I teach very loudly with lot of emotions.
Teaching HONESTLY is really a difficult JOB.
2008/9/30 Andrew Dempsey <apdccie@gmail.com>
> I completely agree with Joe that a real CCNP bootcamp would be very useful
> for a lot of people. For the majority of peopleand various reasons the
> CCIE level will just never be a priority. However that does not mean they
> do not want to learn. I also unfortunately know quite a few people in that
> many people who have gone to non mainstream CCIE vendor bootcamps end up
> with essentially a $4000 testking or 5 $800 rack sessions.
>
> If the original poster is already at a CCIE Written Level then I agree with
> Scott that why take a CCNP bootcamp and not push yourself to see how far you
> can go. All of the vendors I know of have retake policies so I would say be
> ready going in, but if you werent quite you can retake and at least you know
> what the next level you need to get to is.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
>
>> Yes, because I stopped teaching... ;) I can promote anything I want that
>> no
>> longer exists!
>>
>> I have moved on...
>>
>>
>> I felt like I was speaking Greek too many times to be a teacher...
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Muhammad Nasim
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:23 AM
>> To: Joseph Brunner
>> Cc: Scott Morris; Thornton, John A. CTR; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: Experience with CCNP Netmetric-Solutions
>>
>> hey Paul are we allow to do Serious Marketting here or Joe got special
>> privilieges : )
>>
>>
>> 2008/9/30 Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
>>
>> > Then you have never been to my CCNP bootcamp... it's probably harder
>> than
>> > how many "CCIE's" use the tech in the real world in most networks...
>> >
>> > I try make CCNP labs for a real CCNP who can independently operate and
>> > troubleshoot a large live complex network, with vpn, multicast, qos,
>> etc.
>> >
>> > I'm thinking Scott, many guys use testking or actualtests for the CCIE
>> > written, bloat their ego's, then hit the gear for their lab studies,
>> only
>> > to
>> > find out they don't have any chance at even doing the IE level labs...
>> >
>> > -Joe
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> > Scott Morris
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:58 AM
>> > To: 'Thornton, John A. CTR'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > Subject: RE: Experience with CCNP Netmetric-Solutions
>> >
>> > Would there be a point in going to a CCNP bootcamp after you have passed
>> > your CCIE R&S Written exam, which you stated in order to join the CCIE
>> Lab
>> > mailing list?
>> >
>> > Whether it's Netmetric Solutions or not, I'm not sure it's worth the
>> > time/money, but that just my opinion.
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> > Thornton, John A. CTR
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:12 AM
>> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > Subject: Experience with CCNP Netmetric-Solutions
>> >
>> > All,
>> >
>> > I'm seriously considering going to netmetric-solutions CCNP boot camp
>> and
>> > was wondering if anyone has heard, or experienced, anything good/bad
>> with
>> > there training.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> >
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>> Saudi Arabia
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