From: Scott Morris (smorris@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Sun Sep 28 2008 - 21:41:02 ART
Ok, so one question for you....
"Ok, I'm still trying to nail my RS Lab and I'm finishing paying for the
last elements of my Highly-Available, Redundant, and Fault Tolerant "Tabula
Rasa" to borrow a term from Bruce and Val. The initial design is penciled
in and yes it includes my own MPLS cloud. That's why I needed to get it
nailed down - a little necessity goes a long way."
'Tabula Rasa' means 'clean slate'. If you are fault tolerant, redundant and
highly-available, would that not prevent your slate from being erased?
Just a thought. :) Apparantly there's part of the story I'm missing there.
Or caffeine.
Scott
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From: Darby Weaver [mailto:ccie.weaver@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:31 PM
To: darth router
Cc: Narbik Kocharians; Shawn Zandi; Ahmed Elhoussiny; Scott Morris; Felix
Nkansah; Anthony Sequeira; apdccie@gmail.com; atlantaccie@gmail.com;
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Subject: Re: Which Vendor's Workbooks did you use to pass your CCIE Service
Provider?
Hmm...
Not sure about the workbook thing since I've not pondered the SP route
fully, not to say that I've not already started chewing on topics one by one
either. Necessity is the mother of invention. I have some materials
naturally for the track and I know where to find NANOG for Service Provider
related issues, subject-matter, and training materials.
I will have to say the the Service Provider Track has some of the most
misunderstood or less well-known i.e. more arcane topics (in my opinion of
the masses), however it also has some of the richest sets of tools as well.
I mean how many people are naturally intimidated by MPLS at first? And then
come to find out its really a tag-switching type of technolgy and then wake
and realize that most networks are only dealing with the CE Router to the PE
router handoff anyway. And VRF's require some thought initially and while
they can appear complex at first (again our own fears mostly), its not that
tough either. Just remember that if you assign a VRF to an interface that
you need to re-address it with it's IP Address. No biggie there.
IS-IS works a lot like good ole OSPF in concept. ATM reminds me of Frame
and ISDN.
A little deeper into topics like BGP, Multicast, and QoS and voila we have
the barebones for a CCIE Service Provider.
Now with the concept of virtualization on the rise, a lot of the subjects
surrounding this track will become more and more necessary as we progress
though our careers and architect our networks. I can assure you that this
will likely come to pass.
It will come slow in the beginning, since most people are CCNP's and not
CCIP's and tend to deal with Campus Networks, and Enterprise WANs versus
Service Provider Networks. But it is already happening.
The last datacenter project I worked on required a full complement of
skillsets from at least 3 tracks: RS, Security, and SP. It got me
understanding how to use VRF's to solve problems that money can't buy when
faced with squeezing every once out of a router... or switch. And to my
delight it worked well.
After that I made it a point to build my own MPLS cloud and understand
firsthand how MPLS actually works. It's not that bad and it's pretty cool,
especially MPLS-VPNs.
Now I'm getting ready to take it to the next level by adding in the
ATM-LSR's and diving into MPLS-TE.
And yes, Mr. Caslow, I did finally this week purchase a copy of Alex Zinin's
IP Routing book. I'll have it any day now.
As far as trainers we have plenty of them on this list. SP is harder to get
feedback but as more people pursue the track we'll start to hear more and
more about who's standing out. It's only natural.
Ok, I'm still trying to nail my RS Lab and I'm finishing paying for the last
elements of my Highly-Available, Redundant, and Fault Tolerant "Tabula Rasa"
to borrow a term from Bruce and Val. The initial design is penciled in and
yes it includes my own MPLS cloud. That's why I needed to get it nailed
down - a little necessity goes a long way.
So... see you later.
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:52 PM, darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
wrote:
:D
IE needs to have a sense of humor prerequisite :) SP track isn't as
popular, but with MPLS on the plate, I don't see why. It's hugely important.
MPLS is even blowin up inside enterprise.
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com>wrote:
> Darth router was just kidding, this world would not have been the same
> without Females, it would have been helllllllll.
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Shawn Zandi <szmetal@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Manley Track!?
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:05 PM, darth router
<darklordrouter@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I think the truth is...
>>>
>>> SP is a manley track. and Security/voice is for girls!!!
>>>
>>> Lots of girls going for IE, so therefor not many SP.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>> Shawn Zandi
>> Routing, Switching & Security Consultant
>> CCIE (Routing & Switching) - MCSE
>> Dubai Internet City - Building 13
>> web: http://www.shafagh.com <http://www.shafagh.com/>
>> email: shafagh@shafagh.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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