From: Gary Duncanson (garyduncanson@btinternet.com)
Date: Mon Sep 22 2008 - 04:09:10 ART
I see. Well good luck with the job search. Meanwhile make the most of the
time on your hands while you are looking. It's harder to accumlate hours and
stay frosty when you are working fulltime.
Routing on the home rack and remote racks for 4 switches seems to be a good
combo. Works for me.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Long Nguyen" <longoc@gmail.com>
To: "Gary Duncanson" <garyduncanson@btinternet.com>; "ccielab"
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Rack set up question for R & S
> Trained by my big bro for my certs. I'm fortunate enough to have a brother
> and a brother in law who are ccie, so any question can be answered right
> away. So with no money out of my pocket I get my own CCIE rack. I'm
> looking
> for work, but portland is just not a very big market and no one wants to
> take someone with no experience. Oh well, in the mean time I plan on
> getting
> my CCIE. Better now than later.
>
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Gary Duncanson <
> garyduncanson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Long,
>>
>> Remote racks are fine but the flexibility of having gear if you can
>> afford
>> it is a bonus. Even with what you have you can cover a lot of things.
>>
>> Fresh out of college? Did you do other certs while at school. Have you
>> had
>> the chance to get any experience in the field. With the right employer
>> they
>> might encourage you to do some studying on works time.
>>
>> Gary
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Long Nguyen" <longoc@gmail.com>
>> To: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>; "ccielab" <
>> ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Rack set up question for R & S
>>
>>
>>
>> Well I'm a fresh out of college student, bored and motivated to learn
>> the
>>> technologies, so I'm going for bang for my buck.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> Long,
>>>>
>>>> Your other option is to do all the routing and some switching and from
>>>> time
>>>> to time just rent a rack for a day or so.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Scott M Vermillion <
>>>> scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Long,
>>>>>
>>>>> Depending on your budget and your approach to lab prep, you could also
>>>>> consider the 3560-8PCs (a nine-port switch counting the gig "uplink"
>>>>> port).
>>>>> They have the full L3 and QoS functionality that you will need for lab
>>>>> prep.
>>>>> You can buy these new for under $1k each and I'm guessing there's a
>>>>> used
>>>>> market by now. Having said that, I'm not entirely convinced that a
>>>>> four-switch hardware lab is strictly speaking necessary; rack rentals
>>>>> can
>>>>> go
>>>>> a long way if you are able to work your schedule around those of the
>>>>> vendors. I personally built a 4x3560-8PC lab and have no serious
>>>>> regrets
>>>>> -
>>>>> I was able to learn a LOT about L2 via random exploration and
>>>>> troubleshooting that I otherwise wouldn't have if I was just trying to
>>>>> get
>>>>> through the motions of a lab scenario in my allotted rental window.
>>>>> But
>>>>> I
>>>>> can honestly say that these switches were probably expense #2, second
>>>>> only
>>>>> to the sum total of my training expenditures...
>>>>>
>>>>> Prosperous studies!
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>>>> Of
>>>>> Long
>>>>> Nguyen
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 3:29 AM
>>>>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>>> Subject: Rack set up question for R & S
>>>>>
>>>>> I've inherited my brother's CCIE rack and its an older set up with two
>>>>> 3550
>>>>> switches. I was wondering how crucial it would be for me two be able
>>>>> to
>>>>> do
>>>>> the labs with 4 switches. I've also inherited his older workbooks for
>>>>> the
>>>>> two switch set up. Should I pick up some 2950s and get the new
>>>>> learning
>>>>> materials, or could I learn enough via the two switches, my work
>>>>> experience
>>>>> is not very extensive at all.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Long Nguyen
>>>>> CCNP/CCDP
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Narbik Kocharians
>>>> CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
>>>> www.MicronicsTraining
>>>> www.Net-Workbooks.com
>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Long Nguyen
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>>>
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>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Long Nguyen
> CCNP/CCDP
>
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