From: Long Nguyen (longoc@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Sep 21 2008 - 16:06:10 ART
Wow, just looked at rack rental prices, not as expensive as I expected.
Anyone offering deals for an unemployed college grad? I think I might go
with Narbik's suggestion to do the routing on my own and when I need to,
schedule some rack time to practice my switching. It would probably be very
advantageous to use non-ghetto lab equipment like the 3560s.
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Long Nguyen <longoc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Trained by my big bro for my certs. I'm fortunate enough to have a brother
> and a brother in law who are ccie, so any question can be answered right
> away. So with no money out of my pocket I get my own CCIE rack. I'm looking
> for work, but portland is just not a very big market and no one wants to
> take someone with no experience. Oh well, in the mean time I plan on getting
> my CCIE. Better now than later.
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Gary Duncanson <
> garyduncanson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Long,
>>
>> Remote racks are fine but the flexibility of having gear if you can afford
>> it is a bonus. Even with what you have you can cover a lot of things.
>>
>> Fresh out of college? Did you do other certs while at school. Have you had
>> the chance to get any experience in the field. With the right employer they
>> might encourage you to do some studying on works time.
>>
>> Gary
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Long Nguyen" <longoc@gmail.com>
>> To: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>; "ccielab" <
>> ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Rack set up question for R & S
>>
>>
>>
>> Well I'm a fresh out of college student, bored and motivated to learn the
>>> technologies, so I'm going for bang for my buck.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> Long,
>>>>
>>>> Your other option is to do all the routing and some switching and from
>>>> time
>>>> to time just rent a rack for a day or so.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Scott M Vermillion <
>>>> scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Long,
>>>>>
>>>>> Depending on your budget and your approach to lab prep, you could also
>>>>> consider the 3560-8PCs (a nine-port switch counting the gig "uplink"
>>>>> port).
>>>>> They have the full L3 and QoS functionality that you will need for lab
>>>>> prep.
>>>>> You can buy these new for under $1k each and I'm guessing there's a
>>>>> used
>>>>> market by now. Having said that, I'm not entirely convinced that a
>>>>> four-switch hardware lab is strictly speaking necessary; rack rentals
>>>>> can
>>>>> go
>>>>> a long way if you are able to work your schedule around those of the
>>>>> vendors. I personally built a 4x3560-8PC lab and have no serious
>>>>> regrets
>>>>> -
>>>>> I was able to learn a LOT about L2 via random exploration and
>>>>> troubleshooting that I otherwise wouldn't have if I was just trying to
>>>>> get
>>>>> through the motions of a lab scenario in my allotted rental window.
>>>>> But I
>>>>> can honestly say that these switches were probably expense #2, second
>>>>> only
>>>>> to the sum total of my training expenditures...
>>>>>
>>>>> Prosperous studies!
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>>>> Of
>>>>> Long
>>>>> Nguyen
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 3:29 AM
>>>>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>>> Subject: Rack set up question for R & S
>>>>>
>>>>> I've inherited my brother's CCIE rack and its an older set up with two
>>>>> 3550
>>>>> switches. I was wondering how crucial it would be for me two be able to
>>>>> do
>>>>> the labs with 4 switches. I've also inherited his older workbooks for
>>>>> the
>>>>> two switch set up. Should I pick up some 2950s and get the new learning
>>>>> materials, or could I learn enough via the two switches, my work
>>>>> experience
>>>>> is not very extensive at all.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Long Nguyen
>>>>> CCNP/CCDP
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Narbik Kocharians
>>>> CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Long Nguyen
> CCNP/CCDP
>
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