Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel

From: Colin McNamara (Colin@2cups.com)
Date: Wed Sep 10 2008 - 13:21:10 ART


If that would get them to stop using the "human network" I would be all in.
I just don't get the point of having pictures of toddlers in slide decks
while presenting to enterprise customers.....

Joseph Brunner wrote:
> :0)
>
> Great one man!
>
> That pretty much settles it!
>
> Cisco should use that as it ad slogan!
>
>
> "What has your network done for you lately?"
>
> Considering I'm consulting till the end of the year at Ogilvy & Mather (who
> has the Cisco account) I'll walk up stairs and ask them to use it!
>
> LOL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Anthony Faria
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:55 AM
> To: Colin McNamara
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel
>
> All I know is that it is Cisco that pays my bills. I think a lot of us could
> say the same. What has Nortel done for me lately LOL.
>
> Tony
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Colin McNamara <Colin@2cups.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Does anybody want to get into a Ford vs Chevy debate while we are at it?
>> Both companies are mature large cap investments. I think people would
>> generally agree that Nortel's strength has mainly been in carrier
>>
> equipment
>
>> and TDM PBX's. Cisco has always been heavy in the enterprise play (route /
>> switch / voip / security), while participating in the carrier segments
>>
> also.
>
>> I think at the end of the day the discussion is not about what is better
>>
> or
>
>> faster, because with chipset releases, code upgrades that will always
>> change. The question is, what is better for the customer. That can
>> encompass, training, support, future proofing, end to end product
>>
> coverage.
>
>> In that aspect, I think Cisco has an edge.
>>
>> But, thats just my opinion.
>>
>> --
>> Colin McNamara
>> (858)208-8105
>> CCIE #18233,RHCE,GCIH http://www.colinmcnamara.com
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/colinmcnamara
>>
>> "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little
>> longer"
>>
>>
>>
>> Joseph Brunner wrote:
>>
>>
>>> And if you look at Cisco's Stock Price it has a steady rate of growth.
>>>
>>>>
>>> Really?
>>> So much for that analyst job at Goldman Zacks
>>>
>>> http://finance.google.com/finance?q=csco
>>>
>>> hit "5yr" its been pretty flat the whole decade. Cisco is a mature
>>> company.
>>> Nortel is a mature company also, but with less marketing and bad
>>> management.
>>>
>>> Both of these companies together are in a very flat, slow growth
>>>
> industry.
>
>>> Apple computer makes toys for people with credit cards who don't like
>>> saving
>>> money like IPOD's and Mac books;
>>>
>>> Cisco makes network technology that powers business and government
>>> communication networks.
>>>
>>> Cisco was once a $500B company. It has yet to recover from the .com bust.
>>> So in a way Cisco's shareholders didn't benefit from the 2002-2006 stock
>>> market recovery much, if at all.
>>>
>>> Crox was a better stock ;) (and they are more comfortable too!)
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Christopher Copley
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:09 AM
>>> To: Muhammad Nasim
>>> Cc: Ina&Laurean; Bill Eyer; Brad Ellis; Cisco certification
>>> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel
>>>
>>> Group,
>>>
>>> This may be very OT, but if you look at Nortel Stock price it is in a
>>>
> nose
>
>>> dive. And if you look at Cisco's Stock Price it has a steady rate of
>>> growth. Technology aside, why trust your network in the hands of a
>>> company
>>> that looks like it is bleeding money(and failing) like dropped packets
>>> from
>>> a firewall? Now this is coming from a business perspective and not a
>>> technology perspective, but I would rather trust my network to a
>>> company/vender that looks like it will still be here in 2010! I have
>>>
> read
>
>>> nothing but bad things in the investment realm on the quality of Nortel
>>>
> as
>
>>> a
>>> viable company to invest in. So again, why trust your network to any
>>> thing
>>> with a Nortel sticker on it?
>>>
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