From: Scott Morris (smorris@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Mon Sep 01 2008 - 14:41:02 ART
While I suppose that would technically fall into the NDA variety of
describing things, I can tell you it would be an absolute nightmare to
managage all of the racks of equipment if there were NOT a TS in place! :)
So by that logic alone, I would strongly think that there would be one. Now
whether they give you direct access to it or not is a different story. You
may get icons directly for the routers/switches on your lab going straight
to the appropriate ports on the TS.
But either way, should it matter? Be prepared either way, and nobody will
be disappointed!
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
ccie23 ccie23
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 4:11 AM
To: lei tian
Cc: Scott Vermillion; Pavlo Bykov; TCP IP4; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: How to speed up...
Hi all,
Can i confirm that there is TS on the exam? as i have checked with 2
other people who have taken the lab recently they told me that there are no
TS at the exams.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:15 AM, lei tian <again.tl@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Anpu,
>
> I like to open multiple windows, one for each device, and also one
> window for TS. For configuration, I will goto each individual window.
> The TS window is only used when I need send commands to all devices,
> examples like "wr, sh run | ex un, end, tclsh, tclquit....". You can
> also use that when you need to apply configuration like "clock set,
> alias, logging con..."
> But, it is really up to each person which way do you feel will save
> time. I am not a big fan of alias, so I dont think it will save me
> time. But I i know some people like to put alias for lot commands,
> like "conf t, router ospf , router eigrp.....". and they feel that
> will save time. So once again, is up to you which way do you feel more
> conferable.
>
> HTH,
>
> Lei
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Scott Vermillion <
> scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Hi Pavlo,
> >
> > I personally have met with mixed results using this technique.
> > Thus, I 86'd it for lab attempt purposes. Sure would suck to wind
> > up losing half an hour troubleshooting something after shaving off
> > just a few seconds...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of Pavlo Bykov
> > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:02 AM
> > To: TCP IP4
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: How to speed up...
> >
> > Hi Tom.
> > No, you issue a "send *" on the TS
> > and then start typing the commands line by line.
> >
> > So for example if I wasnt time on ALL of my devices to be set at
> > 8:00 am,
> I
> > would go to TS # mode, and type
> > send *
> > clock set 8am
> > ^Z
> >
> > the Z is for send. (clock is an example, we all know the syntax)
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pavlo
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 6:53 PM, TCP IP4 <tcp.ip4@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Lei,
> > >
> > > Can you explain more how to use ts to apply the same configuration
> > > to
> all
> > > devices? Do you mean go to each terminal and do the cut-n-paste?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 4:58 AM, lei tian <again.tl@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Anbu,
> > > >
> > > > My personal experience on how to speed up,
> > > > 1 Use notepad. Build configuration in notepad, and then
> > > > copy/paste to device.
> > > > 2 Use TS. Use teminal server to save configuration and do all
> > > > the
> stuff
> > > you
> > > > need apply to all devices
> > > > 3 Read first. Fox example, OSPF. Read all tasks regarding ospf
> > > > and
> then
> > > > think about the solution, so you dont need to come back to same
> > > > box
> > over
> > > > and
> > > > over.
> > > > 4 Use show run | sec on routers.
> > > >
> > > > HTH,
> > > >
> > > > Lei
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:32 PM, CCIE3000
> > > > <ccie3000@googlemail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > For sure do a layer two.
> > > > >
> > > > > I follow the IE method from the lab set up. Four boxes for
> > > > > your
> > > switches
> > > > in
> > > > > a diamond shape, Sw1 left, SW3 top sw4 right, sw2 bottom.
> > > > >
> > > > > Show connections from routers to switches and mark whether
> > > > > trunk or
> > > which
> > > > > vlan it should be. plus any special things concerning your
> > interswitch
> > > > > links. It should take between 5-10 minutes and closer to 5.
> > > > > You may
> > not
> > > > > ALWAYS need it but I'd bet you need it more times than not.
> > > > >
> > > > > No matter how prepared you are unless you are ultra cool (and
> > > > > in my
> > > eyes
> > > > to
> > > > > be ultra cool in the lab you must be under the influence of
> something
> > > :)
> > > > )
> > > > > you heart beat is going to be up and you are going to be a
> > > > > little
> > edgy
> > > > > (which is a good thing, keeps ya sharp) you will have lots of
> things
> > > > going
> > > > > on in your head thinking things through, don't leave anything
> > > > > to
> > > chance,
> > > > > have it down on paper and as an easy reference. You will be
> > > > > tired
> > > towards
> > > > > the afternoon and should you face a problem it's better to
> > > > > have a
> > > diagram
> > > > > to
> > > > > hand than try and think things through from memory.
> > > > > You should be aiming to have read the lab and drawn your
> > > > > diagrams
> > > within
> > > > 30
> > > > > mins to 45. But then again it's better to spend an extra 10
> > > > > minutes
> > and
> > > > get
> > > > > it right.
> > > > >
> > > > > My enlightenment was to use alias' e.g.
> > > > >
> > > > > cc for conf t
> > > > > ss for show run | section
> > > > >
> > > > > etc..etc...You must remove the alias before the end of the
> > > > > exam but
> I
> > > > noted
> > > > > on my last attempt, I felt good, my nerves were in normal
> > > > > levels
> but
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > life of me I kept making silly typing mistakes which were
> > > > > driving
> me
> > > > > crazy...and normally I can touch type okay. Add up the amount
> > > > > of
> > repeat
> > > > > commands I made and they start to eat into your overall time.
> > > > >
> > > > > You just have to do lab after lab after lab after lab after
> lab...you
> > > get
> > > > > the idea.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I first start one lab could take me 4-5 days. Now I
> > > > > average
> 4-5
> > > > hours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck.
> > > > >
> > > > > Si
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/30/08, Adam Elghafri <ccie.adam@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ok for me...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I DON'T drow a L2 topology (the physical ethernet, more
> accurately)
> > > > > unless
> > > > > > i
> > > > > > see:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "make sure vlan 73 is pruned where it is necessery"
> > > > > > or "both the trunks between SW1 and SW2 should balance the
> traffic
> > of
> > > > > vlans
> > > > > > 15 and 20"
> > > > > > or something else where u want to track the spanning of the
> > > > > > vlans
> > > > across
> > > > > > your trunks...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > otherwise its useless and wast of 20 minutes.. u only need
> > > > > > to
> have
> > a
> > > > good
> > > > > > utilization of the L3 topology (the logical mixed up, more
> > > > > accurately)....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > now for reading the lab .. again.. after investigating with
> > > > > > ppl
> who
> > > > > > passed..
> > > > > > here what i concluded:
> > > > > > -don't read the entire thing word by word as u r trying to
> solve...
> > > or
> > > > > else
> > > > > > it will be harmful !!!!.. yes.. if i do that.. then when i
> > > > > > go
> back
> > to
> > > > do
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > lab from the beginning i just do it without thinking... i
> > > > > > just
> > loose
> > > > the
> > > > > > concentration while doing it and fall in mistakes !!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > exactly when u come "very" prepared to a class...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so my advice.. make the reading not to exceed 10 to 15 minutes..
> or
> > a
> > > > > slow
> > > > > > skimming ..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Footnote: i dont have a ccie number.. so what i say are just
> > > > conclusions
> > > > > to
> > > > > > my "studies" experience ....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:19 AM, KS Anpu <ksanpu@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > I have one more month to sit the lab. Still it is very
> difficult
> > to
> > > > > read
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > full lab and draw the L2 diagram and short notes before
> > > > > > > start
> the
> > > > lab.
> > > > > it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > taking nearly more than one hour . So i am expecting your
> advice
> > /
> > > > help
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > > can i speed up it ? and is there any other good practice
> > > > > > > to
> > follow
> > > > for
> > > > > > speed
> > > > > > > up..... other than using alias , tclsh for ping .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > anbu.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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