From: Majonestx (majonestx@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Aug 31 2008 - 16:35:40 ART
I don't think people were unaware of the answer (in response to wes) I
think most of us were unaware of the question. Nevertheless, a good
refresher course on assuming. :)
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 31, 2008, at 2:03 PM, "Scott Morris" <smorris@internetworkexpert.com
> wrote:
> My views on this haven't changed over the years though. :)
>
> But an amusing correlation nonetheless!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of L
> Pham
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:49 PM
> To: Scott Morris
> Cc: Shahid Ansari; Muhammad Nasim; Wes Stevens; Hobbs;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: set password
>
> He he,
> Scott is in an election year, I can tell ;-)
> Loc
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Scott Morris
> <smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>> Shouldn't the appropriate answer be "wherever I'm at?" ?? :)
>> (Although that answer is a bit too pretentious for me!)
>>
>> Everyone has different views of the world, and features and things
>> like that, but I've always encouraged folks to not look just at any
>> particular product or feature or whatever special du jour is going
>> on.
>>
>> Look at the people behind it, and the qualifications of all of the
>> folks involved. Even perhaps at the "extra-curricular" activities of
>> each of the people. That helps tell the whole story, and that whole
>> story really helps gain a better appreciation for the WHO you want to
>> put your money with and look for a better expereince.
>>
>> This should be a long-term goal for everyone involved, so never
>> make a
>> decision based on a short-term answer!
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>> Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
>> Senior CCIE Instructor
>>
>> smorris@internetworkexpert.com
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
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>> Outside US: 775-826-4344
>> Online Community: A great place for information that is viewed as
>> competition here...
>> CCIE Blog: blog . ourwebsite
>>
>> Knowledge is power.
>> Power corrupts.
>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Shahid Ansari
>> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:22 PM
>> To: Scott Morris
>> Cc: Muhammad Nasim; Wes Stevens; Hobbs; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: set password
>>
>> By the way Scott which Vendor is Best [IPExpert : ( ] OR
>> [ InternetworkExpert : ) ] ?
>> You must Answer ......
>>
>> Thanks
>> Shahid
>>
>>
>> On 8/31/08, Scott Morris <smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I see your point there, but don't necessarily agree.... I will
>> absolutely
>>> agree that people need to have some flavor of real-life experience
>>> to
>>> go along with this, otherwise too many things just don't make
>>> sense...
>>>
>>> On the same notion though, the CCIE isn't about real life! It's
>>> about technologies. And you'll learn more details (generally
>>> speaking) about those in vendor's workbooks and bootcamps than you
>>> will with several years on live networks.
>>>
>>> That's just because we have different focusses in real life versus
>>> in
>>> lab exams! But real life experience should give us the perspective
>>> on things as we move forward!
>>>
>>> Either way, though, the key is that the CCIE number is not the END
>>> of the
>>> journey! I still remember walking out of the lab up in Halifax
>>> (closed
>>> now) on a nice, sunny day, having just received my number.... I
>>> walked
>>> across the street to a park and just laid down staring up at the
>>> sky.
>>> And the biggest thing I remember is thinking about all the things I
>>> knew and realizing "damn, there's even more stuff I don't know!".
>>>
>>> CCIE is but a pit-stop on our technical journey! Vendors and
>>> bootcamps cannot possibly teach you everything!
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Muhammad Nasim
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:12 AM
>>> To: Wes Stevens
>>> Cc: Hobbs; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: set password
>>>
>>> It is due to easiness of passing the lab and availability of the
>>> Dynampis and the most NEGATIVE thing is to ONLY AND ONLY FOCUS ON
>>> VENDOR WORKBOOKS AND BOOTCAMP in order to get the NUMBER.
>>>
>>>
>>> No offense intended to vendors and candidates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/8/31 Wes Stevens <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com>
>>>
>>>> I was active on this list 6 year ago before I sat the lab. I have
>>>> been watching on and off since and helping when time permits. The
>>>> list goes in cycles. Right now it is out of focus. Way too many
>>>> questions that are not CCIE quality. Most companys force the use of
>>>> a special character in passwords - any of the 100 or so network ops
>>>> guys where I work could tell you how to do it.
>>>> For me that is a CCNA question - not IE. If you have passed the
>>>> written - a prerequisite for this list - you should know it.
>>>>
>>>> If you are serious about
>>>> your studies this list should be important to you. If it is
>>>> important keeping it focused on discussions that will help you pass
>>>> the lab should also be important. These days there are a lot more
>>>> CCNA questions and off topics then ones that really help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Hobbs
>>>> <deadheadblues@gmail.com>
>>>> To: Wes Stevens <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:08:43 AM
>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>> set password
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Still don't think it is a ccie study question"
>>>>
>>>> Talk about a
>>>> poor sport! Section I-B of the blueprint includes...VTP...hmmm...
>>>>
>>>> I would
>>>> think that includes how to set a vtp password, with the particular
>>>> caveat of setting one with a question mark. I didn't know that one
>>>> until I started studying for the lab (which was before I took the
>>>> written by the way).
>>>>
>>>> The
>>>> topic of his post was not "Have I taken the written yet and/or your
>>>> concerns on whether I have" so stop trying to change it to that.
>>>> Maybe you should start a separate chain for your ad hominems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Wes Stevens
>>>> <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I saw the quotes around the "?".
>>>> Still don't think it is a ccie study question. No one even bothers
>>>> to search the cisco site before they email the list. We have a lot
>>>> of off topic and and questions that belong on the general list not
>>>> here, and not much studying going on....
>>>>
>>>> Still did not answer my question - has he passed the written?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Hobbs <deadheadblues@gmail.com>
>>>> To: David
>>>> Lonnie <david.lonnie@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Cc: ratm <cancanucho@gmail.com>; Michael Jones
>>>> <majonestx@gmail.com>; itguy.pro@gmail.com; Wes Stevens
>>>> <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com>; "ccielab@groupstudy.com"
>>>> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:38:31 PM
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Re: set password
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HAHA. all you guys got owned. He was asking how to use the ? in the
>>>> password. I think that's a legitimate question. HAHAHA.
>>>>
>>>> don't take
>>>> it personal, i just thought it was funny!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:56 PM,
>>>> David Lonnie <david.lonnie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,ratm.
>>>>
>>>> Right, only you got
>>>> the correct answer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:03 AM, ratm <cancanucho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hi david
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to enter the question
>>>> mark as a character and not a calling IOS
>>>>> help you have to use the sequence:
>>>> Ctrl+v and then enter the question mark,
>>>>> then enter the remaining characters
>>>>>
>>>>> vtp password cisco CTRL+v ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I really hope you were asking this... :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> br
>>>>> ruben
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/8/31 Michael Jones <majonestx@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> wtF lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 6:35 PM, <itguy.pro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> And which country did you pass your ccie?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry
>>>> from T-Mobile
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Wes Stevens
>>>> <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:30:21
>>>>>>>
>>>> To: David Lonnie<david.lonnie@gmail.com>; ccielab@groupstudy.com<
>>>>>>>
>>>> ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: set password
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When and
>>>> how did you pass your ccie written?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
>>>> ----
>>>>>>> From: David Lonnie <david.lonnie@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To:
>>>> "ccielab@groupstudy.com" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August
>>>> 30, 2008 6:13:24 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: set password
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,experts.
>>>>>>> can
>>>> some guys tell me , how to set vtp password "cisco?" ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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