From: sheherezada@gmail.com
Date: Mon Aug 25 2008 - 04:36:33 ART
This thread is long enough... but here's my point:
I do not use aliases because I work with more customers. I don't want
to mess their configuration and I don't want to type aliases where
they are not defined. It is enough for me to remember different user
names and passwords.
Mihai
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Pavlo Bykov <slidersv@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow... I see that there are two camps
>
> 1. PRO alias
> 2. ANTI alias
>
>
> Well, in any case, i do not agree with the second group.
>
> My arguments are:
> 1. "show ip interface brief | exclude una" is just waay too long of a
> command. Believe it or not, i'd say aliases save me about half an hour. It's
> one thing to type "intelligent" command, like Offset list. And it's quite
> completely the other to use stupid mindless commands like "show ip interface
> brief | exclude una". And it save me A LOT of my nerves, because 2 typos in
> the row make you nervous. You do risk that you will forget to remove the
> alias, BUT if you fail without them, then there is nothing to loose. And you
> can always pay 100 dollars to have it graded manually.
>
> 2. I DO use them in real world, and that's the only reason I will be using
> them in the lab. Especially
> "show ip interface brief | include Vlan" = shiv
> and
> "show interface status" = shit
> This saved me countless hours of time in total.
>
>
> Pavlo
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Anant Tamgole <anant.tamgole@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the typo ;)
>>
>> It is better to live with OUT alias.
>>
>> Anant
>>
>> On 8/24/08, Anant Tamgole <anant.tamgole@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks Joe.
>> >
>> > This sounds more logical.
>> >
>> > It is better to live with alias.
>> >
>> > Anant
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 8/24/08, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Alias commands are not in violation of any Lab rules
>> >>
>> >> You will be asked to remove them at the end of the lab. Why take a risk
>> >> and
>> >> forget to remove them?
>> >>
>> >> Do you know why you are asked to remove them?
>> >>
>> >> Grading scripts may fail their operation. You could lose points and fail
>> >> the
>> >> lab over saving a few seconds???
>> >>
>> >> Therefore, in my opinion their risk outweighs their value in speed. Your
>> >> mind is going to be racing at 100,000 Miles per second by the end of
>> day.
>> >> Its one less thing to worry about... going back to all the devices and
>> >> removing your alias commands...
>> >>
>> >> As I have said before, it's better to carefully plan each command even
>> >> when
>> >> you're in a hurry. Know why you are typing the command, what are you
>> >> trying
>> >> to solve?
>> >>
>> >> Why do
>> >>
>> >> Show ip eigrp nei
>> >> Show run | b router eigrp
>> >> Show ip protocol
>> >>
>> >> At light speed only to forget to
>> >>
>> >> Show ip int brief
>> >>
>> >> When troubleshooting eigrp neighbors...
>> >>
>> >> -Joe
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> >> brett spunt
>> >> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:13 AM
>> >> To: 'Cisco Disco'; 'Anant Tamgole'; Luan M Nguyen
>> >> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> >> Subject: RE: OT : CONFIG T
>> >>
>> >> Alias commands are not in violation of any Lab rules and WILL increase
>> >> your
>> >> speed if you know you how to use them
>> >>
>> >> Honestly, it's bizarre the amount of stupidity and lack of maturity I
>> see
>> >> going around this email list...
>> >>
>> >> Are there any real world consultants and engineers on this list working
>> on
>> >> real, live networks?
>> >>
>> >> Here come the barrage of replies.......get a life...
>> >>
>> >> Go work on a real network..
>> >>
>> >> :-)
>> >>
>> >> ___________________________________
>> >> Brett Michael Spunt, CCIE No. 12745
>> >> Senior Consultant
>> >> Convergence Practice, AT&T Consulting
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>> >> Your world. Delivered.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --- On Sat, 8/23/08, Luan M Nguyen <luan@t3technology.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > From: Luan M Nguyen <luan@t3technology.com>
>> >> > Subject: RE: OT : CONFIG T
>> >> > To: "'Cisco Disco'" <itguy.pro@gmail.com>, "'Anant Tamgole'"
>> >> <anant.tamgole@gmail.com>
>> >> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> >> > Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 8:34 PM
>> >> > I like that one "keep it simple stupid!" :)
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
>> >> > On Behalf Of
>> >> > Cisco Disco
>> >> > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:11 PM
>> >> > To: Anant Tamgole
>> >> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> >> > Subject: Re: OT : CONFIG T
>> >> >
>> >> > I seriously don't understand the logic behind using
>> >> > aliases...
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the big deal if you type conf t or config t
>> >> >
>> >> > or sir instead of show ip route
>> >> >
>> >> > you know a command and you want to create another one to
>> >> > remember the one
>> >> > you know and you will have to remember the alias as well as
>> >> > the command that
>> >> > goes with it? Seems like double work to me.
>> >> >
>> >> > Keep it simple stupid!
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Anant Tamgole
>> >> > <anant.tamgole@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Thanks.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Any specific reasons for not using.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Or at the end of the lab we can clean the config by
>> >> > issuing 'no alias
>> >> > exec
>> >> > > xyz' commands.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Anant
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 8/23/08, Muhammad Nasim
>> >> > <muhammad.nasim@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Yes you are but I will STRONGLY STRONGLY
>> >> > recommend not to use any alias
>> >> > > in
>> >> > > > the lab
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > my 0.00002 cents
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > 2008/8/23 Anant Tamgole
>> >> > <anant.tamgole@gmail.com>
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >> Hi,
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Are we allowed to use alias in lab.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Anant
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> On 8/23/08, Narbik Kocharians
>> >> > <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > May be you should do the following:
>> >> > > >> > alias exec GoToConfigMode conf t
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Shahid
>> >> > Ansari <shahid1357@gmail.com>
>> >> > > >> > wrote:
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > > sorree ! dher iz nutting weed
>> >> > chaina zust keeding :P
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> > > conf t = Configure terminal
>> >> > > >> > > cont = no command
>> >> > > >> > > confg= no command
>> >> > > >> > > config t = configure terminal
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> > > thenks
>> >> > > >> > > sh@hid
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:16 PM,
>> >> > Larry <cc13lab@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> > > > You still have to put the
>> >> > alias in... maybe I shoulda sent my
>> >> > > alias
>> >> > > >> > > script
>> >> > > >> > > > to, but i didn't think
>> >> > that would need explaining.... And what is
>> >> > > >> wrong
>> >> > > >> > > > with
>> >> > > >> > > > China?
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4#cont
>> >> > > >> > > > Translating "cont"
>> >> > > >> > > > % Unknown command or computer
>> >> > name, or unable to find computer
>> >> > > >> address
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4#confg
>> >> > > >> > > > Translating "confg"
>> >> > > >> > > > % Unknown command or computer
>> >> > name, or unable to find computer
>> >> > > >> address
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4#t
>> >> > > >> > > > % Ambiguous command:
>> >> > "t"
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4#config t
>> >> > > >> > > > Enter configuration commands,
>> >> > one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4(config)#
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec
>> >> > sir show ip route
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec s
>> >> > show run
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec i
>> >> > sho ip int brie
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec cc
>> >> > config t
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec
>> >> > srb show run | b
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec r
>> >> > show run | b router
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec
>> >> > cir clear ip route *
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4(config)#line con 0
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > Rack1SW4(config-line)#exec-time 0 0
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4(config-line)#exit
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4(config)#logging
>> >> > buffered 10000 debug
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4(config)#no ip
>> >> > domain-lookup
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4(config)#end
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4#wr
>> >> > > >> > > > Building configuration...
>> >> > > >> > > > [OK]
>> >> > > >> > > > Rack1SW4#
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > On 8/22/08, David Chances
>> >> > <davidchances@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > I often get FFS - Fat
>> >> > Finger Syndrome at exam time. So, do
>> >> > > this:-
>> >> > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > alias exec conft conf t
>> >> > > >> > > > > alias exec con conf t
>> >> > > >> > > > > alias exec cont conf t
>> >> > > >> > > > > alias exec "RUDE
>> >> > WORD" conf t
>> >> > > >> > > > > alias exec cinf t conf t
>> >> > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > I would recommend that
>> >> > you remove the 4th one before you leave
>> >> > > >> your
>> >> > > >> > > lab.
>> >> > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > --- On Fri, 8/22/08,
>> >> > Shaughn Smith <
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > Shaughn.Smith@za.verizonbusiness.com
>> >> > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > > From: Shaughn Smith
>> >> > <Shaughn.Smith@za.verizonbusiness.com>
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Subject: RE: OT :
>> >> > CONFIG T
>> >> > > >> > > > > > To:
>> >> > "Larry" <cc13lab@gmail.com>, "Cisco
>> >> > certification" <
>> >> > > >> > > > >
>> >> > ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Date: Friday, August
>> >> > 22, 2008, 8:26 AM
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Hi
>> >> > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Its conf t
>> >> > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > > -----Original
>> >> > Message-----
>> >> > > >> > > > > > From:
>> >> > nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
>> >> > > >> > > > > > On Behalf Of
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Larry
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Sent: Friday, August
>> >> > 22, 2008 2:18 PM
>> >> > > >> > > > > > To: Cisco
>> >> > certification
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Subject: OT : CONFIG
>> >> > T
>> >> > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Does anyone else
>> >> > have this problem??
>> >> > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Rack1SW4#cont
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Translating
>> >> > "cont"
>> >> > > >> > > > > > % Unknown command or
>> >> > computer name, or unable to find
>> >> > > >> > > > > > computer address
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Rack1SW4#confg
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Translating
>> >> > "confg"
>> >> > > >> > > > > > % Unknown command or
>> >> > computer name, or unable to find
>> >> > > >> > > > > > computer address
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Rack1SW4#t
>> >> > > >> > > > > > % Ambiguous command:
>> >> > "t"
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Rack1SW4#config t
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Enter configuration
>> >> > commands, one per line. End with
>> >> > > >> > > > > > CNTL/Z.
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Rack1SW4(config)#
>> >> > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > > arggggggg!
>> >> > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Larry
>> >> > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > > >
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