From: Rick Mur (rick.mur@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Aug 24 2008 - 11:51:23 ART
I tried using them for my lab, but my typing speed is fast enough to
type the whole commands and I always forget which aliases I
configured :-)
But if you feel more comfortable with that commands you should just
use them.
I also would recommend to delete them at the end of the lab, just in
case.
You can always use the: "send *" command on the access server to
delete everything at once.
Rick
On 24 aug 2008, at 04:15, Pavlo Bykov wrote:
> Wow... I see that there are two camps
>
> 1. PRO alias
> 2. ANTI alias
>
>
> Well, in any case, i do not agree with the second group.
>
> My arguments are:
> 1. "show ip interface brief | exclude una" is just waay too long of a
> command. Believe it or not, i'd say aliases save me about half an
> hour. It's
> one thing to type "intelligent" command, like Offset list. And it's
> quite
> completely the other to use stupid mindless commands like "show ip
> interface
> brief | exclude una". And it save me A LOT of my nerves, because 2
> typos in
> the row make you nervous. You do risk that you will forget to remove
> the
> alias, BUT if you fail without them, then there is nothing to loose.
> And you
> can always pay 100 dollars to have it graded manually.
>
> 2. I DO use them in real world, and that's the only reason I will be
> using
> them in the lab. Especially
> "show ip interface brief | include Vlan" = shiv
> and
> "show interface status" = shit
> This saved me countless hours of time in total.
>
>
> Pavlo
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Anant Tamgole <anant.tamgole@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the typo ;)
>>
>> It is better to live with OUT alias.
>>
>> Anant
>>
>> On 8/24/08, Anant Tamgole <anant.tamgole@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Joe.
>>>
>>> This sounds more logical.
>>>
>>> It is better to live with alias.
>>>
>>> Anant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/24/08, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alias commands are not in violation of any Lab rules
>>>>
>>>> You will be asked to remove them at the end of the lab. Why take
>>>> a risk
>>>> and
>>>> forget to remove them?
>>>>
>>>> Do you know why you are asked to remove them?
>>>>
>>>> Grading scripts may fail their operation. You could lose points
>>>> and fail
>>>> the
>>>> lab over saving a few seconds???
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, in my opinion their risk outweighs their value in
>>>> speed. Your
>>>> mind is going to be racing at 100,000 Miles per second by the end
>>>> of
>> day.
>>>> Its one less thing to worry about... going back to all the
>>>> devices and
>>>> removing your alias commands...
>>>>
>>>> As I have said before, it's better to carefully plan each command
>>>> even
>>>> when
>>>> you're in a hurry. Know why you are typing the command, what are
>>>> you
>>>> trying
>>>> to solve?
>>>>
>>>> Why do
>>>>
>>>> Show ip eigrp nei
>>>> Show run | b router eigrp
>>>> Show ip protocol
>>>>
>>>> At light speed only to forget to
>>>>
>>>> Show ip int brief
>>>>
>>>> When troubleshooting eigrp neighbors...
>>>>
>>>> -Joe
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> brett spunt
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:13 AM
>>>> To: 'Cisco Disco'; 'Anant Tamgole'; Luan M Nguyen
>>>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>> Subject: RE: OT : CONFIG T
>>>>
>>>> Alias commands are not in violation of any Lab rules and WILL
>>>> increase
>>>> your
>>>> speed if you know you how to use them
>>>>
>>>> Honestly, it's bizarre the amount of stupidity and lack of
>>>> maturity I
>> see
>>>> going around this email list...
>>>>
>>>> Are there any real world consultants and engineers on this list
>>>> working
>> on
>>>> real, live networks?
>>>>
>>>> Here come the barrage of replies.......get a life...
>>>>
>>>> Go work on a real network..
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> ___________________________________
>>>> Brett Michael Spunt, CCIE No. 12745
>>>> Senior Consultant
>>>> Convergence Practice, AT&T Consulting
>>>> http://www.att.com/consulting
>>>> Bs3757@att.com
>>>> Your world. Delivered.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Sat, 8/23/08, Luan M Nguyen <luan@t3technology.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Luan M Nguyen <luan@t3technology.com>
>>>>> Subject: RE: OT : CONFIG T
>>>>> To: "'Cisco Disco'" <itguy.pro@gmail.com>, "'Anant Tamgole'"
>>>> <anant.tamgole@gmail.com>
>>>>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>>> Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 8:34 PM
>>>>> I like that one "keep it simple stupid!" :)
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
>>>>> On Behalf Of
>>>>> Cisco Disco
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:11 PM
>>>>> To: Anant Tamgole
>>>>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: OT : CONFIG T
>>>>>
>>>>> I seriously don't understand the logic behind using
>>>>> aliases...
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the big deal if you type conf t or config t
>>>>>
>>>>> or sir instead of show ip route
>>>>>
>>>>> you know a command and you want to create another one to
>>>>> remember the one
>>>>> you know and you will have to remember the alias as well as
>>>>> the command that
>>>>> goes with it? Seems like double work to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep it simple stupid!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Anant Tamgole
>>>>> <anant.tamgole@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any specific reasons for not using.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or at the end of the lab we can clean the config by
>>>>> issuing 'no alias
>>>>> exec
>>>>>> xyz' commands.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anant
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/23/08, Muhammad Nasim
>>>>> <muhammad.nasim@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes you are but I will STRONGLY STRONGLY
>>>>> recommend not to use any alias
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the lab
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my 0.00002 cents
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2008/8/23 Anant Tamgole
>>>>> <anant.tamgole@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are we allowed to use alias in lab.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anant
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/23/08, Narbik Kocharians
>>>>> <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> May be you should do the following:
>>>>>>>>> alias exec GoToConfigMode conf t
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Shahid
>>>>> Ansari <shahid1357@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sorree ! dher iz nutting weed
>>>>> chaina zust keeding :P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> conf t = Configure terminal
>>>>>>>>>> cont = no command
>>>>>>>>>> confg= no command
>>>>>>>>>> config t = configure terminal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thenks
>>>>>>>>>> sh@hid
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:16 PM,
>>>>> Larry <cc13lab@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You still have to put the
>>>>> alias in... maybe I shoulda sent my
>>>>>> alias
>>>>>>>>>> script
>>>>>>>>>>> to, but i didn't think
>>>>> that would need explaining.... And what is
>>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> China?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4#cont
>>>>>>>>>>> Translating "cont"
>>>>>>>>>>> % Unknown command or computer
>>>>> name, or unable to find computer
>>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4#confg
>>>>>>>>>>> Translating "confg"
>>>>>>>>>>> % Unknown command or computer
>>>>> name, or unable to find computer
>>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4#t
>>>>>>>>>>> % Ambiguous command:
>>>>> "t"
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4#config t
>>>>>>>>>>> Enter configuration commands,
>>>>> one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config)#
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec
>>>>> sir show ip route
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec s
>>>>> show run
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec i
>>>>> sho ip int brie
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec cc
>>>>> config t
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec
>>>>> srb show run | b
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec r
>>>>> show run | b router
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config)#alias exec
>>>>> cir clear ip route *
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config)#line con 0
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Rack1SW4(config-line)#exec-time 0 0
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config-line)#exit
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config)#logging
>>>>> buffered 10000 debug
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config)#no ip
>>>>> domain-lookup
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config)#end
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4#wr
>>>>>>>>>>> Building configuration...
>>>>>>>>>>> [OK]
>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4#
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/22/08, David Chances
>>>>> <davidchances@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I often get FFS - Fat
>>>>> Finger Syndrome at exam time. So, do
>>>>>> this:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> alias exec conft conf t
>>>>>>>>>>>> alias exec con conf t
>>>>>>>>>>>> alias exec cont conf t
>>>>>>>>>>>> alias exec "RUDE
>>>>> WORD" conf t
>>>>>>>>>>>> alias exec cinf t conf t
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would recommend that
>>>>> you remove the 4th one before you leave
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> lab.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --- On Fri, 8/22/08,
>>>>> Shaughn Smith <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Shaughn.Smith@za.verizonbusiness.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Shaughn Smith
>>>>> <Shaughn.Smith@za.verizonbusiness.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: OT :
>>>>> CONFIG T
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>> "Larry" <cc13lab@gmail.com>, "Cisco
>>>>> certification" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Friday, August
>>>>> 22, 2008, 8:26 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its conf t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original
>>>>> Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From:
>>>>> nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August
>>>>> 22, 2008 2:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Cisco
>>>>> certification
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: OT : CONFIG
>>>>> T
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone else
>>>>> have this problem??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4#cont
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Translating
>>>>> "cont"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> % Unknown command or
>>>>> computer name, or unable to find
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer address
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4#confg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Translating
>>>>> "confg"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> % Unknown command or
>>>>> computer name, or unable to find
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer address
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4#t
>>>>>>>>>>>>> % Ambiguous command:
>>>>> "t"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4#config t
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enter configuration
>>>>> commands, one per line. End with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CNTL/Z.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rack1SW4(config)#
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> arggggggg!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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