From: Hoogen (hoogen82@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Aug 15 2008 - 17:52:43 ART
Hmm.. lets keep this offline folks. I think we have sympathized on this both
for and against. No need for this to get personal here.
Cheers
-Hoogen
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com>wrote:
> Mr. Intelligent did you not know that Obama was Russssssssssssssian.
>
> For some one that believes and references youtub, you are saying that I AM
> SMOKING?
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Roman Rodichev <roman@iementor.com>
> wrote:
>
> > When the truth comes out, I'll remind you who was smoking grass, you or
> I.
> > If your intellect stops at "what you hear and see is what's right", then
> > there's no reason to discuss anything. The time will show...
> >
> >
> >
> > Roman Rodichev
> > 5xCCIE #7927 (R&S, Security, Voice, Storage, Service Provider)
> > Instructor, Content Developer. ieMentor Corporation
> > http://www.iementor.com
> > Y!M: roman7927
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Narbik Kocharians
> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:11 PM
> > To: Roman Rodichev
> > Cc: Ahsan Mohiuddin; sheherezada@gmail.com; Joseph Brunner; Cisco
> > certification
> > Subject: Re: very OT: this is ridiculous!
> >
> > M8, How do you blame BUSH or US for something that Russia is doing?? get
> > off
> > the grass mate.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Roman Rodichev <roman@iementor.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It all makes sense now. Bush's government had a perfect plan to get
> > McCain
> > > elected.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Roman Rodichev
> > >
> > > 5xCCIE #7927 (R&S, Security, Voice, Storage, Service Provider)
> > >
> > > Instructor, Content Developer. ieMentor Corporation
> > >
> > > http://www.iementor.com <http://www.iementor.com/>
> > >
> > > Y!M: roman7927
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Ahsan Mohiuddin [mailto:ahsan.mohiuddin@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:08 AM
> > > To: Roman Rodichev
> > > Cc: sheherezada@gmail.com; Joseph Brunner; Cisco certification
> > > Subject: Re: very OT: this is ridiculous!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thumbs up Roman, i think this should shut everybody up !
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Roman Rodichev <roman@iementor.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCwTo9AdT2c
> > >
> > > maybe a u.s. citizen can be believed more?!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -------Original Message-------
> > > > From: sheherezada@gmail.com
> > > > Subject: Re: very OT: this is ridiculous!
> > > > Sent: Aug 10 '08 13:20
> > > >
> > > > Roman,
> > > >
> > > > With all my honesty - what is in your opinion the reason for Georgia
> > > > attacking Ossetia? I really want to know, because it does not make
> > > > any sense to me. I mean, they want to join NATO, they want to offer
> a
> > > > secure transit route for non-Russian oil to the Western Europe.
> What
> > > > would be their interest? On the other hand, there is a precedent in
> > > > Kosovo. Do they fear they will lose Ossetia just like the Serbs
> lost
> > > > Kosovo, essentially based on ethnic majority? Because now, the only
> > > > thing that makes sense to me is that Russia is trying to use this
> > > > Georgian attack to completely discredit Georgia (i.e. to take it out
> > > > the oil route). Why would then Georgians want to expose themselves
> to
> > > > such a thing, especially knowing the Russian military power?
> > > >
> > > > Mihai
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Roman Rodichev <roman@iementor.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > you really believe that those images are a result of Russian
> > invasion?
> > > Georgia has bombed and continues to bomb South Ossetia for the last
> three
> > > days. I've seen much more terrible images of what's happening there. I
> > > could
> > > go on and on, but I'll spare this board from this crap, it's
> unnecessary,
> > > and I'll stay on the topic of Southern Ossetia, because I don't want to
> > get
> > > into any other discussions about Russia, 90's, and its Oligarchs. Ask
> > > yourself a question: why does Georgian president speak English instead
> of
> > > Georgian when he's speaking on their local TV stations? why did Condi
> > > visited them couple of weeks ago? why doesn't CNN show any interviews
> of
> > > South Ossetia president? why doesn't CNN show any interviews or South
> > > Ossetia civilians who survived the attack? I see a lot of those on
> > Russian
> > > TV - and you can't just make that stuff up. People were trying to
> survive
> > > in
> > > the basements in the buildings, Georgian army was throwing grenades in
> > > every
> > > basement when they were re!
> > > treat!
> > > > > ing after Russian "invasion", there's still a lot of snipers left
> > in
> > > that city that kill off any remaining civilians, there's a footage
> online
> > > showing a georgian trank driving over some old woman running with two
> > kids.
> > > Just wait for a month or two, the real thuth will come out. You are
> > > continued to be fed by anti-Russian propaganda. The real truth behind
> > > what's
> > > happening is Western fear that Russia is getting out of their control,
> it
> > > all comes down to one-super-power ideology and natural resources.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> -------Original Message-------
> > > > >> From: Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> > > > >> Subject: RE: very OT: this is ridiculous!
> > > > >> Sent: Aug 09 '08 17:22
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It's nice to see Russian troops "help" people in Southern
> Ossetia.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Doesn't this woman look grateful she was helped!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/WORLD/europe/08/09/georgia.reax/t1land.inj
> > > > >> ured.woman.ap.jpg
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm sure that guided missile that blew up the hovel around her
> was
> > > for her
> > > > >> own personal benefit! Or should be believe the "irresponsible
> and
> > > > >> misinforming American media" hired that woman to roll around in
> > the
> > > mud and
> > > > >> give her self a bloody face so she would look good for her
> > > Goebbelsque cnn
> > > > >> propaganda shot?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It's nice to see Russia pockets fat again from nationalizing the
> > oil
> > > > >> conglomerates that were sold off to twenty-something oligarchs
> in
> > > the
> > > > >> 1990's. There will be plenty of cash for Russia to pay for these
> > > small
> > > > >> Afghanistan's throughout the rest of the 21st century!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -Joe
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > Behalf
> > > Of
> > > > >> Roman Rodichev
> > > > >> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:15 PM
> > > > >> To: 'Cisco certification'
> > > > >> Subject: very OT: this is ridiculous!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> i can't believe how irresponsible and misinforming American
> media
> > is
> > > > >>
> > > > >> all Western media outlets are saying that Russia invaded and
> > > attacked
> > > > >> Georgia, and McCain is only making it worse (god forbid he gets
> > > elected)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> while the truth is Georgian military had shelled the breakaway
> > > region
> > > of
> > > > >> Georgia (Southern Ossetia) and killed over 1000 civilians over
> the
> > > last 24
> > > > >> hours. Russian military and peacekeeping forces are trying to
> help
> > > helpless
> > > > >> people in Southern Ossetia (where 80% of civilians hold Russian
> > > passports).
> > > > >> This is the worst provocation I've seen in my lifetime to
> position
> > > the West
> > > > >> against Russia. And they did it right on the first day of
> > > Olympics!!!
> > > I
> > > > >> personally have no doubt that U.S. government instigated Georgia
> > to
> > > start
> > > > >> this attack.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm sorry for bringing political and world issues here, you have
> a
> > > right to
> > > > >> yell at me, but I needed to vent... and more importantly so many
> > > people in
> > > > >> U.S. will watch CNN today and will think that Russia started
> this
> > > mess!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> While frontline news on cnn.com say "Georgia 'under attack' as
> > > Russian tanks
> > > > >> roll in", just read into the actual article and put 2 and 2
> > > together...
> > > > >>
> > >
> >
> http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/08/georgia.ossetia/index.html
> > > > >> CNN is saying as little as possible about the truth!!!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "South Ossetia, with a population of about 70,000 people,
> declared
> > > > >> independence from Georgia in the early 1990s, but it was not
> > > internationally
> > > > >> recognized. Many ethnic Ossetians feel close to Russia and have
> > > Russian
> > > > >> passports and use its currency."
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Georgian troops launched new attacks in South Ossetia late
> > Thursday
> > > after a
> > > > >> top government official said a unilateral cease-fire offer was
> met
> > > with
> > > > >> separatist artillery fire." <---- these are the attacks that
> were
> > > started
> > > > >> by Georgia Thursday night and killed over 1000 people in
> Southern
> > > Ossetia
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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