From: Hoogen (hoogen82@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Aug 11 2008 - 20:03:55 ART
Well this is what happens when you have other countries sharing a "land"
border with you. Lot of mess!! I guess the Australians are quietly enjoying
themselves down under with no one to fight with.
-Hoogen
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com>wrote:
> You never know may be Georga will capture Russia?
>
> ha ha
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Graham Hopkins
> <ghopkins@wolf-rock.co.uk>wrote:
>
> > Well no actually - how biased a report could you find? An Amercian woman
> > who recognised a a Georgian plane, strange how was she trained in
> aircraft
> > recognition. I don't see how any report in a war from either side can be
> > considered unbiased. I'd rather take my news from the BBC - see
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7551576.stm for what seems a
> > reasonable summary.
> >
> > Seems to me that Georgia attacked in the mistaken view that Russia
> wouldn't
> > respond, who knows if that was what Russia wanted, the US wanted or
> anything
> > else? What I do know is that as usual its the ordinary and the poor who
> are
> > on the recieving end.
> >
> > Graham Hopkins
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ahsan Mohiuddin wrote:
> >
> >> Thumbs up Roman, i think this should shut everybody up !
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Roman Rodichev <roman@iementor.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCwTo9AdT2c
> >>>
> >>> maybe a u.s. citizen can be believed more?!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -------Original Message-------
> >>>> From: sheherezada@gmail.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: very OT: this is ridiculous!
> >>>> Sent: Aug 10 '08 13:20
> >>>>
> >>>> Roman,
> >>>>
> >>>> With all my honesty - what is in your opinion the reason for Georgia
> >>>> attacking Ossetia? I really want to know, because it does not make
> >>>> any sense to me. I mean, they want to join NATO, they want to offer
> a
> >>>> secure transit route for non-Russian oil to the Western Europe. What
> >>>> would be their interest? On the other hand, there is a precedent in
> >>>> Kosovo. Do they fear they will lose Ossetia just like the Serbs lost
> >>>> Kosovo, essentially based on ethnic majority? Because now, the only
> >>>> thing that makes sense to me is that Russia is trying to use this
> >>>> Georgian attack to completely discredit Georgia (i.e. to take it out
> >>>> the oil route). Why would then Georgians want to expose themselves
> to
> >>>> such a thing, especially knowing the Russian military power?
> >>>>
> >>>> Mihai
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Roman Rodichev <roman@iementor.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> > you really believe that those images are a result of Russian
> >>>> invasion?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Georgia has bombed and continues to bomb South Ossetia for the last
> three
> >>> days. I've seen much more terrible images of what's happening there. I
> >>> could
> >>> go on and on, but I'll spare this board from this crap, it's
> unnecessary,
> >>> and I'll stay on the topic of Southern Ossetia, because I don't want to
> >>> get
> >>> into any other discussions about Russia, 90's, and its Oligarchs. Ask
> >>> yourself a question: why does Georgian president speak English instead
> of
> >>> Georgian when he's speaking on their local TV stations? why did Condi
> >>> visited them couple of weeks ago? why doesn't CNN show any interviews
> of
> >>> South Ossetia president? why doesn't CNN show any interviews or South
> >>> Ossetia civilians who survived the attack? I see a lot of those on
> >>> Russian
> >>> TV - and you can't just make that stuff up. People were trying to
> survive
> >>> in
> >>> the basements in the buildings, Georgian army was throwing grenades in
> >>> every
> >>> basement when they were re!
> >>> treat!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> > ing after Russian "invasion", there's still a lot of snipers left
> in
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> that city that kill off any remaining civilians, there's a footage
> online
> >>> showing a georgian trank driving over some old woman running with two
> >>> kids.
> >>> Just wait for a month or two, the real thuth will come out. You are
> >>> continued to be fed by anti-Russian propaganda. The real truth behind
> >>> what's
> >>> happening is Western fear that Russia is getting out of their control,
> it
> >>> all comes down to one-super-power ideology and natural resources.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> -------Original Message-------
> >>>> >> From: Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> >>>> >> Subject: RE: very OT: this is ridiculous!
> >>>> >> Sent: Aug 09 '08 17:22
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> It's nice to see Russian troops "help" people in Southern
> Ossetia.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Doesn't this woman look grateful she was helped!
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/WORLD/europe/08/09/georgia.reax/t1land.inj
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> ured.woman.ap.jpg
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I'm sure that guided missile that blew up the hovel around her
> was
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> for her
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> own personal benefit! Or should be believe the "irresponsible and
> >>>> >> misinforming American media" hired that woman to roll around in
> the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> mud and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> give her self a bloody face so she would look good for her
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Goebbelsque cnn
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> propaganda shot?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> It's nice to see Russia pockets fat again from nationalizing the
> >>>> oil
> >>>> >> conglomerates that were sold off to twenty-something oligarchs in
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> 1990's. There will be plenty of cash for Russia to pay for these
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> small
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> Afghanistan's throughout the rest of the 21st century!
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> -Joe
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Behalf Of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> Roman Rodichev
> >>>> >> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:15 PM
> >>>> >> To: 'Cisco certification'
> >>>> >> Subject: very OT: this is ridiculous!
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> i can't believe how irresponsible and misinforming American media
> >>>> is
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> all Western media outlets are saying that Russia invaded and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> attacked
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> Georgia, and McCain is only making it worse (god forbid he gets
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> elected)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> while the truth is Georgian military had shelled the breakaway
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> region of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> Georgia (Southern Ossetia) and killed over 1000 civilians over
> the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> last 24
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> hours. Russian military and peacekeeping forces are trying to
> help
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> helpless
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> people in Southern Ossetia (where 80% of civilians hold Russian
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> passports).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> This is the worst provocation I've seen in my lifetime to
> position
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> the West
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> against Russia. And they did it right on the first day of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Olympics!!! I
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> personally have no doubt that U.S. government instigated Georgia
> to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> start
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> this attack.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I'm sorry for bringing political and world issues here, you have
> a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> right to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> yell at me, but I needed to vent... and more importantly so many
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> people in
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> U.S. will watch CNN today and will think that Russia started this
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> mess!!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> While frontline news on cnn.com say "Georgia 'under attack' as
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Russian tanks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> roll in", just read into the actual article and put 2 and 2
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> together...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/08/georgia.ossetia/index.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> CNN is saying as little as possible about the truth!!!!
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> "South Ossetia, with a population of about 70,000 people,
> declared
> >>>> >> independence from Georgia in the early 1990s, but it was not
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> internationally
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> recognized. Many ethnic Ossetians feel close to Russia and have
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Russian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> passports and use its currency."
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> "Georgian troops launched new attacks in South Ossetia late
> >>>> Thursday
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> after a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> top government official said a unilateral cease-fire offer was
> met
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> with
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> separatist artillery fire." <---- these are the attacks that
> were
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> started
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >> by Georgia Thursday night and killed over 1000 people in Southern
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Ossetia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
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