From: Morris, Jason L. (Jasmorris@checkngo.com)
Date: Tue Aug 05 2008 - 17:32:17 ART
Cisco is never going to control the testing center and I don't think
they'll ever be able to avoid the questions walking out the door.
I say make the question pools 8000 questions. Is it easier to read the
CCNA book and learn the material or to memorizing 8000 questions?
As for the CCIE, I don't care who cheats on the written. Have fun
failing the lab.
And recerting the CCIE, is it really that big of a deal? How many of
you run into CCIEs who have 'lost their edge'? if they passed the lab
at one point then you know they at least had an edge to begin with.
Joseph,
"and from lamers who book seats in order to get themselves motivated
to study."
Hey... at least it gets me to study ;) (test on 8/21, to late to
reschedule now)
Jason Morris
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joseph Brunner
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:21 AM
To: 'Alexei Monastyrnyi'
Cc: 'Michael Jones'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Good job CISCO!!!!
The queues are due to bootcamps purchasing bulk seats in phony candidate
names, and from lamers who book seats in order to get themselves
motivated
to study.
I have never had a hard time getting quick lab date. These savants drop
their lab date when they are done bragging to their boss and friends
that
they have a lab date. I usually get my date about 2 weeks out, and it's
a
breeze.
Since we don't need to get a written done if we are using the lab to
recertify, we can just book the week before we go.
-Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Alexei Monastyrnyi
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:14 AM
To: Joseph Brunner
Cc: 'Michael Jones'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: Re: Good job CISCO!!!!
I'd love to say it is a good idea to re-certify with the lab, but it is
impossible in real life IMO... with the queues to book a seat at Cisco
it is to become a nightmare...
A.
on 7/24/2008 2:17 PM Joseph Brunner wrote:
> THANK GOD!!!
>
> Lets start by invalidating ALL previously obtained prometric/VUE
> certifications... and requiring CCIE's pass the LAB not just the
written
> every 2 years...
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Michael Jones
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:14 PM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: Good job CISCO!!!!
>
>
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/telecom/cisco-pearso
n-vu
> e-combat-exam-fraud-global-test-delivery-enhancements/-1099877822
>
> Tuesday, July 22, 2008 Cisco and Pearson VUE Combat Exam Fraud With
Global
> Test Delivery Enhancements
>
> Jul 22, 2008 (Hugin via COMTEX) ----New Security Measures Underscore
> Commitment to Protect Certification Integrity and Value
>
> SAN JOSE, CA and BLOOMINGTON, MN--(Marketwire - July 22, 2008) - Cisco
> (NASDAQ: CSCO: 21.76, -0.41, -1.84%) and its global testing provider,
> Pearson VUE, a business of Pearson, today announced a series of
security
> enhancements that will reinforce the integrity and value of the Cisco
> certification portfolio.
>
> "Cisco certifications are one of the most highly valued credentials
> available to information technology (IT: 22.37, +0.24, +1.08%)
> professionals, and protecting that reputation is paramount," said Erik
> Ullanderson, manager of global certifications for Learning@Cisco.
"Proxy
> testing and other forms of cheating can diminish the value of
certifications
> for individuals and the organizations that employ them. Pearson VUE
and
> Cisco are leading the way in aggressively combating this industry wide
issue
> through the latest advancements in exam development and delivery."
>
> The advanced security enhancements include the use of digital
photographs
> for candidate-identity verification and forensic analysis of testing
data.
> The new measures, to be implemented beginning on Aug. 1, will include:
>
> -- Photo on Score Report and Web -- On completion of a certification
exam
at
> the test center, candidates will receive preliminary score reports
imprinted
> with their photos and unique authentication codes. The authentication
code
> can be used to access a candidate's official score online at Pearson
VUE's
> website www.pearsonvue.com/authenticate usually within 72 hours of the
> examination. The online score report will also display the candidate's
> photo. Candidates may share access to their online records with
employers
or
> other third parties.
>
> -- Forensic Analysis -- Exam results and other testing data will be
> continuously analyzed by forensic software to detect aberrant testing
> behavior and to flag suspect exams for further investigation. When
problems
> are identified with the validity of a test result, the candidate's
score
> will be invalidated. Depending on the exact issue with the flagged
exam,
> further consequences may range from having to retake the exam to the
> imposition of a one-year or lifetime testing ban.
>
> -- Preliminary Score Report -- All paper score reports will be
preliminary,
> pending the results of forensic analysis, until official exam scores
are
> posted to the Web within 72 hours of exam completion. Once the exam
scores
> are official, candidates may use the authentication codes on their
score
> reports to access the Pearson VUE website for score and photo
verification.
>
> "We looked at alternatives for addressing the issue of proxy testing,
the
> two primary victims of which are employers and those members of the
> certification community who chose training, hard work and experience
as
> their path to certification," explained Randall Trask, vice president
of
> market development for Pearson VUE. "We determined that adding photos
to
> score reports and providing employers with the ability to authenticate
both
> the exam score and the person achieving it will provide a direct
benefit
to
> all."
>
> These new exam security measures are part of Cisco's overall strategy
to
> protect the value and integrity of its certifications. Other measures
> include simulation-based testing, dynamically generated questions and
> emulations to help ensure that Cisco certified networking
professionals
> continue to have the knowledge, skills and credentials to perform well
on
> the job.
>
> About Pearson VUE
>
> Pearson VUE (www.pearsonvue.com) is the global leader in electronic
testing
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services
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162
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academic,
> government and professional clients. Pearson VUE acquired the former
> Promissor in 2006, thereby extending its leadership in the
certification
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of
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> clients and individual test takers with an unmatched testing
experience.
>
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