From: Luan Nguyen (luan.m.nguyen@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Aug 02 2008 - 11:54:18 ART
http://www.saic.com/contractcenter/gsa-it/laborrates-onsite-it.html#na
Paul: If you guys need pepople, please let me know, I am your neighbor by
the way :)
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Dale Kling <dalek77@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll have to find the link, but SAIC once publicized their rates they
> charge
> for their positions. Senior Architect was at a rate of $300/hour. I
> honestly think running your own company is the way I'm learning nowadays,
> but there is definitely still good money in W2 or consulting. 8(a), SDB,
> and disabled vet statuses surely would help one grow a business quickly.
> Lots of money in the government.
>
> Dale
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I'll leave it at this...
> >
> > A recruiter this week told me they could not get me more than $120,000 at
> a
> > law firm. This law firm has over 1000 partners and rents office space at
> > the
> > most exclusive office building in NYC if not North America. The rent is
> > around $150/sq foot per year (its famous and the figure been in the
> > newspaper).
> >
> > The want me to the lead Cisco Architect, work with MPLS (I assume they
> > meant
> > vrf-lite), be the man, develop internal tools, procedures, and oh, yea,
> > eventually manage the group. Pretty much every job offer is paying around
> > this much...
> >
> > Nevermind, I made $125,000/yr quite a while back as a CCNP...
> >
> > I know down in DC CCIE's get TS/"Majestic 12" clearance and bill
> themselves
> > out to John Q. Taxpayer (one CCIE this week told me a bigger number from
> DC
> > than I have ever heard per hour for a CCIE), but for the rest of us, its
> > learn something new, or continue to accept degrading living standards AS
> A
> > CCIE
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Dardinski [mailto:pauld@marshallcomm.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:05 PM
> > To: Joseph Brunner; Antonio Soares; Cisco certification
> > Subject: RE: CCIE Worldwide Statistics - Update
> >
> > Well, to each their own I guess. Here in the DC area, $140k is indeed
> > considered a pretty nice income. Maybe not investment banker grade, but
> > still....
> >
> > As to $200k not being enough and being poverty level...don't know what to
> > say to that. Indeed, if that isn't enough money to support a family
> > decently
> > well then really I don't know what to say. Certainly even in the
> overpriced
> > DC area that is considered pretty reasonable for sure.
> >
> > Paul Dardinski (#16842 RS/Sec)
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Brunner [mailto:joe@affirmedsystems.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:01 PM
> > To: Paul Dardinski; 'Antonio Soares'; 'Cisco certification'
> > Subject: RE: CCIE Worldwide Statistics - Update
> >
> > I don't think $140,000 a year is that much money... which is more than
> most
> > CCIE's make.....
> >
> > I was commenting on the fact that the number is over 17,000 now
> > worldwide...
> >
> > Following supply/demand, supply keeps a climbing, while demand keeps a
> > dropping. Not a very good position to be in.
> >
> > I think the demand is hot if you are willing to work for $120,000 or less
> > (not a very good living anymore friend). I'll say it again, I know a lot
> of
> > people in I.T. (all areas) and BOTH husband and wife have to work their
> ASS
> > off each around $100k plus just to pay their mortgage, debt, taxes, etc.
> > And don't have a pot to pee in left over...
> >
> > General Physicians must make a lot more around me, than down there...
> > :)
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Dardinski [mailto:pauld@marshallcomm.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:52 PM
> > To: Joseph Brunner; Antonio Soares; Cisco certification
> > Subject: RE: CCIE Worldwide Statistics - Update
> >
> > Not so sure about your "highly valuable" assessment there Joe....most of
> > the ccie's I know make what general physicians make a year, which I
> > don't really consider too shabby for not needing 10 years of school and
> > $100k minimum in tuition...just my $0.02.
> >
> > Paul Dardinski (#16842 RS/Sec)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Brunner [mailto:joe@affirmedsystems.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:50 PM
> > To: Paul Dardinski; 'Antonio Soares'; 'Cisco certification'
> > Subject: RE: CCIE Worldwide Statistics - Update
> >
> > I saw that... there are still about 4,000 too many in north america for
> > it
> > to be a "highly valuable" anymore (highly valuable = pays good)
> >
> > I can't wait 'til I finish security/sp and then I can go for EXCHANGE
> > RANGER... Now that is quite rare and valuable... ;) Maybe Oracle Master
> > DBA
> > after that!
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Paul
> > Dardinski
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:44 PM
> > To: Antonio Soares; Cisco certification
> > Subject: RE: CCIE Worldwide Statistics - Update
> >
> > More CCIE's in Asia then in all of North America, interesting.
> >
> > Paul Dardinski (#16842 RS/Sec)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Antonio Soares
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 7:03 PM
> > To: 'Cisco certification'
> > Subject: CCIE Worldwide Statistics - Update
> >
> > Hello group,
> >
> > We have a new update to the CCIE Worldwide Statistics page:
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/certified_ccies/worldwide.htm
> > l
> >
> > See here the progress since January 2006:
> >
> > http://pwp.netcabo.pt/amsoares/wwccies/wwccies.htm
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> > amsoares@netcabo.pt
> >
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