From: Ramya S (ramya_1975@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Jul 29 2008 - 02:12:06 ART
John Scott,
In group study there are lots of post about success stories related to
vendors.....Narbik,IPexpert, internetworkexpert, netmetricsolutions,
ccbootcamp...etc
Why dont you verify all the postings if they are valid. From all the
discussions so far its clearly known that Anderson has not done such a thing
as what you think. His student has posted out of happiness as he as passed. So
why do you want to make up nonsense stories against genuine people. The ip
address theory is so imaginative and false.
What is the proof that what you say is really true? You seem to be in a
neurosis.
Are you really John Scott. Can you prove that? You are so jobless to compare
ipaddress and make false statements. Do you fight a lot with your girlfriend?
Joseph Burner,
Do you mean the IE or Ipexpert are the only 2 reputable company and not
others? Dont waste your time by listening to false stories. In one case what
if it was false marketing. What will you do about it? Will you go to the cisco
and complain or will you go to the court or police station and complain?
Halowene Boy,
Yes youre right about TOP GUN. They have done a lot of nasty things and
people dont go there now.
But one thing to note when you said A very similar institute is Top Gun. The
fact is Netmetrics is not similar to topgun. Dont compare sky and earth. I
have studies there at netmetrics and they are excellent. Thats the reason
IPEXPERT is with netmetrics now.
> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:10:20 +0530> From: ciscob20@gmail.com> To:
beyer@optonline.net> Subject: Re: anyone had a bootcamp with Anderson Alves
(Andri)> CC: ccievoice1@gmail.com; roman@iementor.com;
joe@affirmedsystems.com; johnscottgs@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com;
security@groupstudy.com; cisco@groupstudy.com> > A very similar institute is
Top Gun in India that claims a lot but has> nothing to offer. The instructor
is fraud, the owner is fake & their rack> sucks with outdated devices.> > Many
of the students are softly robbed by it and their hard earned money> gets
wasted. They too claim lots of CCIE while giving advertisement in> newspaper
etc as they are best. But, reality is they are the best cheaters> in India.> >
Regards,> H B> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Bill Eyer
<beyer@optonline.net> wrote:> > > I can't agree. If you are going to buy any
product, even a book from> > Amazon, don't you read the reviews? I do. I don't
make my decisions based> > on just one review because it could be from the
author or someone close to> > them. Shouldn't an expensive item like a
bootcamp get reviewed. So what if> > a few vendors may "stuff the ballot box".
I think most people see through> > them in the end. Many of us are interested
in the reviews of classes, but> > that doesn't mean we don't think for
ourselves when we make the final> > choice.> >> > Bill> >> >> > ccievoice1
wrote:> >> >> So what is the *morale of the story*? Never ask any advice for
bootcamp if> >> possible. And, only stick to technical question related to
CCIE study :-)> >>> >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Bill Eyer
<beyer@optonline.net> wrote:> >>> >>> >>> >>> All,> >>>> >>> I think it's
great that so many trainers participate on Groupstudy.> >>> Naturally they all
think they do a great job. What would we expect them> >>> to> >>> say "our
company is lousy"? I personally appreciate it when someone> >>> reports> >>>
that a particular product is useful to them in helping to understand the> >>>
technologies. Maybe once in a while they are a bit self promoting, but> >>>
does> >>> that really hurt? Lot's of them provide real value in real> >>>
explainations.> >>>> >>> Bill> >>>> >>>> >>> Roman Rodichev wrote:> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Sure they don't :)> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> You guys are mean, maybe he's
really good, let him advertise...> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Roman Rodichev> >>>>
5xCCIE #7927 (R&S, Security, Voice, Storage, Service Provider)> >>>>
Instructor, Content Developer. ieMentor Corporation> >>>>
http://www.iementor.com> >>>> Y!M: roman7927> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>
-----Original Message-----> >>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
[mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> >>>> Joseph Brunner> >>>> Sent:
Monday, July 28, 2008 3:12 PM> >>>> To: 'John Scott'; ccielab@groupstudy.com;
security@groupstudy.com;> >>>> cisco@groupstudy.com> >>>> Subject: RE: anyone
had a bootcamp with Anderson Alves (Andri)> >>>>> >>>> John,> >>>>> >>>> I
agree with you. If there is false promotion going on we should hear> >>>>
about> >>>> it.> >>>>> >>>> (Notice its never reputable companies like IE or
IPEXPERT that do it)> >>>>> >>>> I have a low tolerance for cheating, and if
two CCIE's got the same IP> >>>> on> >>>> DHCP, or live close enough to each
other than electrons jumped between> >>>> their> >>>> PC's nic cards, well
hell, as a amateur physicist I would like to KNOW> >>>> ABOUT> >>>> IT!> >>>>>
>>>> LOL> >>>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----> >>>> From:
nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> >>>> John>
>>>> Scott> >>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:07 PM> >>>> To:
ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com;> >>>> cisco@groupstudy.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: anyone had a bootcamp with Anderson Alves (Andri)> >>>>>
>>>> ccievoice1 [ccievoice1@gmail.com] or whomever you are,> >>>> I am sorry
to be a member in a group including people like you and like> >>>> Triple
cheater.> >>>>> >>>> With all what we hear about nowadays with exam proxy
takers, who knows> >>>> probably this account is another cheating account to
complete the game.> >>>> You> >>>> know that he can do this account in INDIA
where his company is located> >>>> in> >>>> few hours.> >>>>> >>>> Anyway, I
will let my girl friend promote my CCIE classes as she believe> >>>> that I am
a great BSer/cheater as well but this time I will make sure to> >>>> let> >>>>
her change IP addresses to make sure that no body can catch us> >>>>
"cheating".> >>>>> >>>> Sorry for all group members to waste your time but I
believe that you> >>>> have> >>>> to know about those cheaters.> >>>> This is
my last message in this subject.> >>>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----> >>>>
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> >>>>
ccievoice1> >>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:10 AM> >>>> To: Jose A. Arnau>
>>>> Cc: Marko Milivojevic; GS CCIE-Lab> >>>> Subject: Re: anyone had a
bootcamp with Anderson Alves (Andri)> >>>>> >>>> John Scott,> >>>>> >>>>
Please don't hesitate to say "sorry" for doing doing accusation ...> >>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----> >>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
[mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> >>>> John> >>>> Scott> >>>> Sent:
Monday, July 28, 2008 8:23 AM> >>>> Subject: RE: anyone had a bootcamp with
Anderson Alves (Andri)> >>>>> >>>> THIS IS BS> >>>> ANDRI, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO
CHEAT PEOPLE WITH FALSIFIIED MAILS TO GET ONE> >>>> OR> >>>> TWO STUDENTS INTO
YOUR CLASSES.> >>>>> >>>> GS members,> >>>> Here is a prove that Andri had
sent falsified messages to cheat group> >>>> members from the same IP address
that is located in his home town> >>>> "Valencia,> >>>> Spain"> >>>> First
message is from Andri mail account on 28th June 2008 coming from> >>>> his>
>>>> IP address 81.203.142.172> >>>> X-Originating-IP: [81.203.142.172]> >>>>
X-Originating-Email: [mota_anderson@hotmail.com]> >>>> Message-ID:
<BAY110-DS179E58F4B8480B924F733899D0@phx.gbl>> >>>> From: "Anderson Alves"
<mota_anderson@hotmail.com>> >>>> To: <2008ccie@live.com>,
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>> >>>> References:
<sympa.1214676148.27177.979@groupstudy.com>> >>>> Subject: RE: ip verify
unicast> >>>> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:22:51 +0200> >>>>> >>>> This message
is from the falsified mail account that ANDRI had used to> >>>> cheat> >>>>
you from the same IP address 81.203.142.172> >>>>> >>>> X-Originating-IP:
[81.203.142.172]> >>>> From: "Jose A. Arnau" <jaral18@hotmail.com>> >>>> To:
Adam Elghafri <ccie.adam@gmail.com>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>> >>>> Subject:
RE: anyone had a bootcamp with Anderson Alves (Andri)> >>>> Date: Mon, 28 Jul
2008 14:40:41 +0000> >>>>> >>>> Actually all of you can find that out because
Mr. triple CCIE does not> >>>> know> >>>> how to hid his $$it.> >>>> I believe
PAUL had suspended Narbik for doing that before so I wonder> >>>> what> >>>>
he should do with Mr. Alves now.> >>>>> >>>> Good Luck CHEATERS..> >>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----> >>>>> >>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
[mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> >>>> Jose> >>>> A. Arnau> >>>>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:41 AM> >>>> To: Adam Elghafri;
ccielab@groupstudy.com> >>>> Subject: RE: anyone had a bootcamp with Anderson
Alves (Andri)> >>>>> >>>> Adam,> >>>> I took his bootcamp for R/S and I really
liked his teaching skills, by> >>>> the> >>>> time I took the exam I thought I
didn't have that much to learn and he> >>>> proved> >>>> me I was wrong, I'm
going for the R/S next month and I hope to pass at> >>>> first> >>>> like he
did.> >>>>> >>>> Regards.> >>>>> >>>> ---------------------------------> >>>>>
>>>> Jose A. Arnau> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------> >>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:05:13 -0700> >>>>>
From: ccie.adam@gmail.com> >>>>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com> >>>>> Subject:
anyone had a bootcamp with Anderson Alves (Andri)> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am planning to attend his bootcamp next month in
Bangalore> >>>>> any one to share his/her experience?> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net> >>>>> >>>>
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