From: Bill Eyer (beyer@optonline.net)
Date: Mon Jul 28 2008 - 21:35:06 ART
I can't agree. If you are going to buy any product, even a book from
Amazon, don't you read the reviews? I do. I don't make my decisions
based on just one review because it could be from the author or someone
close to them. Shouldn't an expensive item like a bootcamp get
reviewed. So what if a few vendors may "stuff the ballot box". I think
most people see through them in the end. Many of us are interested in
the reviews of classes, but that doesn't mean we don't think for
ourselves when we make the final choice.
Bill
ccievoice1 wrote:
> So what is the *morale of the story*? Never ask any advice for bootcamp if
> possible. And, only stick to technical question related to CCIE study :-)
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Bill Eyer <beyer@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>> All,
>>
>> I think it's great that so many trainers participate on Groupstudy.
>> Naturally they all think they do a great job. What would we expect them to
>> say "our company is lousy"? I personally appreciate it when someone reports
>> that a particular product is useful to them in helping to understand the
>> technologies. Maybe once in a while they are a bit self promoting, but does
>> that really hurt? Lot's of them provide real value in real explainations.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> Roman Rodichev wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Sure they don't :)
>>>
>>>
>>> You guys are mean, maybe he's really good, let him advertise...
>>>
>>>
>>> Roman Rodichev
>>> 5xCCIE #7927 (R&S, Security, Voice, Storage, Service Provider)
>>> Instructor, Content Developer. ieMentor Corporation
>>> http://www.iementor.com
>>> Y!M: roman7927
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Joseph Brunner
>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:12 PM
>>> To: 'John Scott'; ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com;
>>> cisco@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: anyone had a bootcamp with Anderson Alves (Andri)
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> I agree with you. If there is false promotion going on we should hear
>>> about
>>> it.
>>>
>>> (Notice its never reputable companies like IE or IPEXPERT that do it)
>>>
>>> I have a low tolerance for cheating, and if two CCIE's got the same IP on
>>> DHCP, or live close enough to each other than electrons jumped between
>>> their
>>> PC's nic cards, well hell, as a amateur physicist I would like to KNOW
>>> ABOUT
>>> IT!
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> John
>>> Scott
>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:07 PM
>>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com; cisco@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: anyone had a bootcamp with Anderson Alves (Andri)
>>>
>>> ccievoice1 [ccievoice1@gmail.com] or whomever you are,
>>> I am sorry to be a member in a group including people like you and like
>>> Triple cheater.
>>>
>>> With all what we hear about nowadays with exam proxy takers, who knows
>>> probably this account is another cheating account to complete the game.
>>> You
>>> know that he can do this account in INDIA where his company is located in
>>> few hours.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I will let my girl friend promote my CCIE classes as she believe
>>> that I am a great BSer/cheater as well but this time I will make sure to
>>> let
>>> her change IP addresses to make sure that no body can catch us "cheating".
>>>
>>> Sorry for all group members to waste your time but I believe that you have
>>> to know about those cheaters.
>>> This is my last message in this subject.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> ccievoice1
>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:10 AM
>>> To: Jose A. Arnau
>>> Cc: Marko Milivojevic; GS CCIE-Lab
>>> Subject: Re: anyone had a bootcamp with Anderson Alves (Andri)
>>>
>>> John Scott,
>>>
>>> Please don't hesitate to say "sorry" for doing doing accusation ...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> John
>>> Scott
>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:23 AM
>>> Subject: RE: anyone had a bootcamp with Anderson Alves (Andri)
>>>
>>> THIS IS BS
>>> ANDRI, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO CHEAT PEOPLE WITH FALSIFIIED MAILS TO GET ONE OR
>>> TWO STUDENTS INTO YOUR CLASSES.
>>>
>>> GS members,
>>> Here is a prove that Andri had sent falsified messages to cheat group
>>> members from the same IP address that is located in his home town
>>> "Valencia,
>>> Spain"
>>> First message is from Andri mail account on 28th June 2008 coming from his
>>> IP address 81.203.142.172
>>> X-Originating-IP: [81.203.142.172]
>>> X-Originating-Email: [mota_anderson@hotmail.com]
>>> Message-ID: <BAY110-DS179E58F4B8480B924F733899D0@phx.gbl>
>>> From: "Anderson Alves" <mota_anderson@hotmail.com>
>>> To: <2008ccie@live.com>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>> References: <sympa.1214676148.27177.979@groupstudy.com>
>>> Subject: RE: ip verify unicast
>>> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:22:51 +0200
>>>
>>> This message is from the falsified mail account that ANDRI had used to
>>> cheat
>>> you from the same IP address 81.203.142.172
>>>
>>> X-Originating-IP: [81.203.142.172]
>>> From: "Jose A. Arnau" <jaral18@hotmail.com>
>>> To: Adam Elghafri <ccie.adam@gmail.com>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>> Subject: RE: anyone had a bootcamp with Anderson Alves (Andri)
>>> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:40:41 +0000
>>>
>>> Actually all of you can find that out because Mr. triple CCIE does not
>>> know
>>> how to hid his $$it.
>>> I believe PAUL had suspended Narbik for doing that before so I wonder what
>>> he should do with Mr. Alves now.
>>>
>>> Good Luck CHEATERS..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Jose
>>> A. Arnau
>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:41 AM
>>> To: Adam Elghafri; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: anyone had a bootcamp with Anderson Alves (Andri)
>>>
>>> Adam,
>>> I took his bootcamp for R/S and I really liked his teaching skills, by the
>>> time I took the exam I thought I didn't have that much to learn and he
>>> proved
>>> me I was wrong, I'm going for the R/S next month and I hope to pass at
>>> first
>>> like he did.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------
>>>
>>> Jose A. Arnau
>>>
>>> --------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:05:13 -0700
>>>> From: ccie.adam@gmail.com
>>>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>> Subject: anyone had a bootcamp with Anderson Alves (Andri)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am planning to attend his bootcamp next month in Bangalore
>>>> any one to share his/her experience?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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