From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Fri Jul 25 2008 - 10:16:55 ART
I think you are missing one test center there... Since I can't blow up the
map to get too detailed, I'm thinking it was either Bangalore, India or Hong
Kong, China...
Test Centers:
RTP (US)
San Jose (US)
Brussels, Belgium
Sydney, Australia
Bangalore, India
Beijing, China
Hong Kong
Dubai, UAE
Tokyo, Japan
Sao Paulo, Brazil
And while that vast majority of Americans may live closer to a lab, I
thought we were talking mere quantity here in which case why are really not
the most populous area.
But I think Cisco chose somewhat more major cities to align with the
"generally easy" places to get in and out of along with whatever offices
they already had.
Will some people have it harder than others? Sure. C'est la vie.
Scott
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
nortic @hackermail.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:22 AM
To: Joseph Brunner; 'nortic @hackermail.com'; 'Narbik Kocharians'
Cc: 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Good job CISCO!!!!
According to the US of A intel its the 5th largest "country" (not 4th)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2119ra
nk.html
I thought the 70% of of the world population lives closer to a lab than 70%
of americans was hilarious, so I drew you a picture of the world, lab
locations and 4-5hour flight radius.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e129/ccielabs/map-labs.jpg
It appears that its more a case of 100% of americans live closer to a lab
than 70% of the world population. China and India skew the stats a bit.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> To: "'nortic @hackermail.com'" <nortic@hackermail.com>, "'Narbik
> Kocharians'" <narbikk@gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Good job CISCO!!!!
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:19:04 -0400
>
>
> Last time I checked 77% of the labs were not in the United States...
> Unless we annexed
>
> Sao Paulo, Brazil
> Brussels, Belgium
> Dubai, UAE
> Tokyo, Japan
> Hong Kong, China
> Sydney, Australia
> Bangalore, India
>
> So, Mr. Geography, I'm guessing here, but about 70% of the WORLD'S
> POPULATION lives closer to one of those labs, than 70% percent of
> Americans live to San Jose or RTP.
>
> The United States is the 4th largest country in the world, and North
> America is 3000 Miles from Europe and 7,000+ Miles from ASIA. It seems
> to me the lab geography would favor EMEA/ASIA on getting to the lab...
>
> Now go back in put some more thought into YOUR COMMENTS!!!
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nortic @hackermail.com [mailto:nortic@hackermail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:05 AM
> To: Narbik Kocharians; Joseph Brunner
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Good job CISCO!!!!
>
> How much thought did you guys put into your comments?
>
> For the rest of the world, (no not that small country called the US of
> A), its not a drive down to RTP/San Jose to sit the lab
>
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>
> > To: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> > Subject: Re: Good job CISCO!!!!
> > Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:19:11 -0700
> >
> >
> > I will vote for that.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Joseph Brunner
> > <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > THANK GOD!!!
> > >
> > > Lets start by invalidating ALL previously obtained prometric/VUE
> > > certifications... and requiring CCIE's pass the LAB not just the
> > > written every 2 years...
> > >
> > > -Joe
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Michael Jones
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:14 PM
> > > To: Cisco certification
> > > Subject: Good job CISCO!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
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