From: Matt Bentley (mattdbentley@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Jul 24 2008 - 19:01:14 ART
Why do we wait to test practical knowledge (aside from sims) until expert
level? Why not have a "lab" for associate and professional levels?
Granted, it would make exams more expensive, but this would serve even more
to prevent excessively casual test-takers from foolish attempts.
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
wrote:
> Something has to be done...
>
> I know about 24 testking certified CCNP/CCDP/CCVP who don't know when how
> to
> use option 150, bgp next hop self, what MOS, etc.
>
> It has to stop... this is a small step in the right direction for Cisco/Vue
> to take.
>
> ;)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Ramy
> Sisy
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:42 PM
> To: 'Narbik Kocharians'; 'Joseph Brunner'
> Cc: 'Michael Jones'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: Good job CISCO!!!!
>
> If it will be done, a lot of multiple CCIEs will lose their extra unaware
> titles nowadays, LOL
>
> I wonder how a triple or quadruple will upgrade his labs every 2 years.
>
> Best Regards,
> -Ramy Sisy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Narbik Kocharians
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:19 PM
> To: Joseph Brunner
> Cc: Michael Jones; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Good job CISCO!!!!
>
> I will vote for that.
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> wrote:
>
> > THANK GOD!!!
> >
> > Lets start by invalidating ALL previously obtained prometric/VUE
> > certifications... and requiring CCIE's pass the LAB not just the written
> > every 2 years...
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Michael Jones
> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:14 PM
> > To: Cisco certification
> > Subject: Good job CISCO!!!!
> >
> >
> >
>
> http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/telecom/cisco-pearson-vu
> > e-combat-exam-fraud-global-test-delivery-enhancements/-1099877822
> >
> > Tuesday, July 22, 2008 Cisco and Pearson VUE Combat Exam Fraud With
> Global
> > Test Delivery Enhancements
> >
> > Jul 22, 2008 (Hugin via COMTEX) ----New Security Measures Underscore
> > Commitment to Protect Certification Integrity and Value
> >
> > SAN JOSE, CA and BLOOMINGTON, MN--(Marketwire - July 22, 2008) - Cisco
> > (NASDAQ: CSCO: 21.76, -0.41, -1.84%) and its global testing provider,
> > Pearson VUE, a business of Pearson, today announced a series of security
> > enhancements that will reinforce the integrity and value of the Cisco
> > certification portfolio.
> >
> > "Cisco certifications are one of the most highly valued credentials
> > available to information technology (IT: 22.37, +0.24, +1.08%)
> > professionals, and protecting that reputation is paramount," said Erik
> > Ullanderson, manager of global certifications for Learning@Cisco. "Proxy
> > testing and other forms of cheating can diminish the value of
> > certifications
> > for individuals and the organizations that employ them. Pearson VUE and
> > Cisco are leading the way in aggressively combating this industry wide
> > issue
> > through the latest advancements in exam development and delivery."
> >
> > The advanced security enhancements include the use of digital photographs
> > for candidate-identity verification and forensic analysis of testing
> data.
> > The new measures, to be implemented beginning on Aug. 1, will include:
> >
> > -- Photo on Score Report and Web -- On completion of a certification exam
> > at
> > the test center, candidates will receive preliminary score reports
> > imprinted
> > with their photos and unique authentication codes. The authentication
> code
> > can be used to access a candidate's official score online at Pearson
> VUE's
> > website www.pearsonvue.com/authenticate usually within 72 hours of the
> > examination. The online score report will also display the candidate's
> > photo. Candidates may share access to their online records with employers
> > or
> > other third parties.
> >
> > -- Forensic Analysis -- Exam results and other testing data will be
> > continuously analyzed by forensic software to detect aberrant testing
> > behavior and to flag suspect exams for further investigation. When
> problems
> > are identified with the validity of a test result, the candidate's score
> > will be invalidated. Depending on the exact issue with the flagged exam,
> > further consequences may range from having to retake the exam to the
> > imposition of a one-year or lifetime testing ban.
> >
> > -- Preliminary Score Report -- All paper score reports will be
> preliminary,
> > pending the results of forensic analysis, until official exam scores are
> > posted to the Web within 72 hours of exam completion. Once the exam
> scores
> > are official, candidates may use the authentication codes on their score
> > reports to access the Pearson VUE website for score and photo
> verification.
> >
> > "We looked at alternatives for addressing the issue of proxy testing, the
> > two primary victims of which are employers and those members of the
> > certification community who chose training, hard work and experience as
> > their path to certification," explained Randall Trask, vice president of
> > market development for Pearson VUE. "We determined that adding photos to
> > score reports and providing employers with the ability to authenticate
> both
> > the exam score and the person achieving it will provide a direct benefit
> to
> > all."
> >
> > These new exam security measures are part of Cisco's overall strategy to
> > protect the value and integrity of its certifications. Other measures
> > include simulation-based testing, dynamically generated questions and
> > emulations to help ensure that Cisco certified networking professionals
> > continue to have the knowledge, skills and credentials to perform well on
> > the job.
> >
> > About Pearson VUE
> >
> > Pearson VUE (www.pearsonvue.com) is the global leader in electronic
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> > Promissor in 2006, thereby extending its leadership in the certification
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> > clients and individual test takers with an unmatched testing experience.
> >
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> >
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