Re: RA VPN users can not ping remote LAN

From: Jian Gu (guxiaojian@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jul 20 2008 - 04:54:00 ART


Interesting, my understanding of PIX configuration is that you configure NAT
on an interface that has higher security level for traffic destinated to
lower security level. In my case mpls interface security level is 90,
outside interface security level is 0, by configuring NAT exemption on mpls
interface, traffic sourced from private address space to RA VPN pool address
space will not be NATed and connection from RA VPN can be initiated. This is
exactly the same idea of configuring NAT exemption on inside interface for
internal traffic and traffic to RA VPN pool, which works fine.

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
wrote:

> nope; my way
>
>
>
> we nat clients at one site so they can use their PRIVATE ip s to hit a dmz
>
>
>
> it may be HEADED to the mpls interface; but its sourced from the vpn pool
> addresses internally where the xlate is created.
>
>
>
> Think of your mpls as a dmz with routing if that helps forget the
> capture.
>
>
>
> think of the capture as checking if the car hits 6000 rpm, and does a fast
> <
> mile we still need to know why the ENGINE wont start
>
>
>
> do intensive debugs and there should be nothing funny in those debugs
>
>
>
> -J
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Jian Gu [mailto:guxiaojian@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:41 AM
> To: Joseph Brunner
> Cc: Paul Dardinski; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: RA VPN users can not ping remote LAN
>
>
>
> I do have nat (mpls) 0 configured, but shouldn't the access-list look the
> other way around? like this:
>
> access-list vpn-clients-nonat extended permit ip object-group private-space
> object-group vpn-clients
>
> Traffic is coming to mpls interface, so the source should be private-space
> while the destination is vpn-clients?
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> wrote:
>
> ok thanks, we just all piecing it all together.
>
>
>
> I have done many MPLS turn-ups with PAETEC/ATT lately, and if you don't
> advertise it to them, they don't know about it, no matter how MUNDANE a
> route
>
>
>
> Just looking at my ASA;
>
>
>
> so you have both of these commands in the conf.
>
>
>
> same-security-traffic permit inter-interface
>
> same-security-traffic permit intra-interface
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>
>
> (should be default PIX/ASA commands IMHO!!!)
>
>
>
> and do you have something like this .
>
>
>
> access-list vpn-clients-nonat extended permit ip object-group vpn-clients
> object-group private-space
>
>
>
> nat (mpls) 0 access-list vpn-clients-nonat
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Jian Gu [mailto:guxiaojian@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:23 AM
>
>
> To: Joseph Brunner
> Cc: Paul Dardinski; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: RA VPN users can not ping remote LAN
>
>
>
> The traffic is dropped in firewall, yes, MPLS provider routes
> 10.10.10.0/24
> in my VRF, why would MPLS provider care what kind of routes I have? remote
> CE does get 10.10.10.0/24, so I am pretty sure the problem is not routing.
>
> Regarding your second question, I am sure, when traffic come in from RA
> VPN,
> what security level would it have? and what difference would it make when
> the traffic is routed to site2site VPN interface or mpls interface? both
> interfaces have security level higher than outside interface security level
> 0.
>
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> wrote:
>
> Are we sure the MPLS provider routes 10.10.10.0/24 in your VRF? What are
> you
> static natting this to out interface "MPLS"?
>
>
>
> -Joe
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Jian Gu [mailto:guxiaojian@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:42 AM
> To: Joseph Brunner
> Cc: Paul Dardinski; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: RA VPN users can not ping remote LAN
>
>
>
> It is running 7.x
>
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> wrote:
>
> All Good points, Master Paul;
>
> One question I have now, is what Version Pix 515 is this? Hopefully 7.x
> that
> permits intra/inter anything.
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Paul
> Dardinski
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:06 PM
> To: Jian Gu
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>
> Subject: RE: RA VPN users can not ping remote LAN
>
> The intra hairpin worked previously w/site-to-site, right? Assuming that to
> be the case then only delta is change of interface (which I assume is
> routed
> correctly for the new site-to-site between offices). As you haven't changed
> any of the IP addies and only added a new int, take a look at your sec
> level
> on the new int and ensure its not lower then the ra. Also, ensure you have
> inter-interface traffic permitted (I'm assuming you had intra-interface
> permitted before).
>
> PD (#16842 RS/Sec)
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Jian
> Gu
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:33 PM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: RA VPN users can not ping remote LAN
>
> Hi, all,
>
> This is a real world scenario, we have two offices one in San Jose and the
> other one in LA, the network is very simple, each office has a PIX 515 and
> has one L3 subnet directly attached to firewall's inside interface, the
> subnets are 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.2.0/24, respectively. Each firewall
> has two public IP addresses, one public address dedicated to Internet
> access
> and IPsec RA access, and the other public IP is dedicated for site2site
> VPN,
> the address pool for remote access VPN in SJ office is 10.10.10.0/24,
> while
> remote access pool in LA office is taken from 192.168.2.0/24 space. So
> everything worked fine, when employees VPN in to either firewall, they can
> access Email/files in either location.
>
> We now decided to get rid of the site2site VPN and go with MPLS VPN service
> provided by ATT, the MPLS VPN service was attached to third interface
> (nameif MPLS) in firewall, we changed the static route on firewall such
> that
> traffic between two offices are routed to interface MPLS, the cutover is
> successful, means that hosts in both offices can communicate with each
> other
> fine.
>
> The only problem is remote access users can only access servers in their
> local office but can not access servers (or ping) in remote office, I think
> somehow firewall does not route traffic coming from RA VPN to the new
> (MPLS)
> interface, but I can not figure out why is so, because the routing looks
> correct, and NAT translation also OK.
>
> If you guys have any suggestions, please guide, I can post the relevant
> configuration if that helps.
>
> Thanks,
> Jian
>
>
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