From: Arden Packeer (contactme@ardenpackeer.com)
Date: Fri Jul 18 2008 - 21:27:51 ART
When I was doing preparing and working through the vendors workbooks,
for each point section I would ask myself:
* "How can I validate this answer?"
* "How can I prove that this is the correct answer (even though I
know it is)?"
* "If I stuff this up, what other sections will it effect?"
* "How else can I solve this problem?"
* "Where is this section in the DocCD? (Look it up, even if you
know the answer)"
* "Is this the simplest way to do this?"
* "How can I do this faster?" (notepad, BGP Peer-groups etc).
* "What are the other different interpretations of this question?
Are there any keywords that I am looking for?"
* "What would happen if I introduced something tricky here? (Use
your imagination and play)"
These questions become the basis for my study and analysis of each
practice lab. When I first started studying, I just did heaps of labs.
This was great because it exposed me to a wide range of problems and
solutions, but what I found was happening was that I was making the
same mistakes over and over again. After I took the approach above
(repeating, and analyzing) I stopped making those mistakes as often.
I'm still made stupid mistakes, just not as often! :)
--- Arden Packeer Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert (CCIE #20716 R&S) Cisco Systems Instructor (CCSI #31090)contactme@ardenpackeer.com http://ardenpackeer.com
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:44 PM, keith tokash <ktokash@hotmail.com> wrote: > There are errors in everything from everyone everywhere. To minimize mistakes > make sure to download the PDF of the lab before you do it as opposed to > downloading them all 6 months in advance. Mistakes happen, but get fixed, and > it sucks suffering through an error and finding out it's a non-issue because > the latest lab fixed it. > > As for how many times you should do each one - my coworker did them all 3 > times each. I did them all once, and 2-3 a second time. It's not about > pounding out labs, it's about understanding the technology so deeply that > Cisco would have to start throwing triple negatives at you to trip you up > (which I've never heard of them doing, unlike ISC2). If your journey to > ass-kickery takes the route of mock lab after mock lab, then that's a > perfectly viable strategy. But don't think you aren't ready until you finish > them all 2-3 times each. > > Also, if you're weak in the non-core areas it might help to spend a week on > QoS, a week on IP Services (ok, maybe 4 days), etcetera, then go back to > labbing it up. The speed comes naturally when you read a question and think, > "oh, I know exactly what they want". That's not a result of drilling, it's a > result of depth of knowledge. > > > The information in this e-mail is intended for the > attention and use of the everyone in the world, or I wouldn't have sent it in > an unencrypted email. This message or any part thereof can and should be > disclosed, copied, distributed and retained by any person without > authorization from the addressee. Furthermore, I reserve the right to > disclose, copy, distribute and retain anything anyone sends *me* via email, up > to and including putting the exact text in a MySpace bulletin. > > >> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:18:44 +0530 >> From: ccie.adam@gmail.com >> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com >> Subject: how to approach IEWB Volume II >> >> After watching lots of candidates who do the labs 2 or 3 time and fail >> .. I said I have to do something different >> >> I have delayed touching volume II labs till I felt I am "really" >> confident that I can do them with some ease >> >> My strategy was to study study study .. then do the 20 labs in 20 >> days!!! One lab per day, 7 am to 4 pm .. don't touch the solution till >> I finish And if I do pass 15 out of the 20 .. then I am ready and I >> will go to the exam after repeating some labs here and there >> >> >> My philosophy: If I can do a tough task without help "today".. then I >> will be able to do it after 1 year !! >> >> I am now done with lab 6 .. with the following conclusions: >> >> 1.I am not speeding up in config >> >> 2.I am really good in core technologies (finish after 3 hours) .. but >> weak in the rest ( takes the rest of the day >> >> 3.without considering the stupid mistakes .. I somehow passed half of these > labs >> >> 4.the most thing I hate is a wordy question.. where I have to read it >> maybe 3 times in order to find out what it is actually asking for.. >> this consumes time gets me bored quickly .. >> >> 5.is it me or there are mistakes in every lab (half answers, hidden >> side effects, not optimal solutions..etce) >> >> >> >> some ccie told me to do the labs at least twice he said yes.. u need >> to memorize and speed up >> >> my goal is to pass from the first shoot any ccie who has some advice >> in the way to approach the labs with most benefit >> >> thanks a lot and mind my english >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. > http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_0720 > 08 > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
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