From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jul 14 2008 - 16:54:10 ART
For the longest time i thought that it was my arms that were getting shorter
and shorter, then i realised that i needed glasses.
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:10 PM, John <jgarrison1@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> Narbik,
>
> No problem. Just some miscommunication. Whether it be the vendos bad
> tasks or my thick head. At this point I have put in too much time, effort,
> and money to let anything discourage me for more than 10 seconds, if that
> . Being frustrated is the norm for me. The truly sad part is I need
> glasses so bad I skimmed right by the part in the doc cd that I as looking
> for and thus led me to ask the question. I got more info than I was looking
> for so it's all good
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com>
> *To:* John <jgarrison1@austin.rr.com>
> *Cc:* Paul Cosgrove <paul.cosgrove@heanet.ie> ; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2008 12:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Traffic shaping vs rate limit
>
> John,
>
> I was NOT trying to tell you that you are asking stupid questions, i am
> trying to tell you NOT to be discouraged by some of the vague questions that
> some of the vendors put together, a question like that does not tell you
> much, I thought that you knew the difference between shaping and policing
> and you were trying to get a clue on the question.
> Some of these vendors will purposely get students all messed up to draw
> them into their classes, i doubt very much that you or anyone else will get
> a vague question like that. I am sorry if i offended you, i did not mean to
> do that, i was trying to make sure that you were not discouraged.
> Unicast me if you need more help.
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:36 AM, John <jgarrison1@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> It was purposly ambigious. I'm going through qos and some things are not
>> quite clear. I understand there are various forms of rate-limiting one
>> rate, two rate, two paint, treee paint etc. I'm also trying to pick up
>> clues as to what a task is asking me ie "shape the average rate", "limit
>> protocol to to xKbs", which are easy clues. I'm reading the config guide
>> and various RFC's now, but that doesn't mean I won't get confused sometimes.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Cosgrove" <
>> paul.cosgrove@heanet.ie>
>> To: "John" <jgarrison1@austin.rr.com>
>> Cc: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:24 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: Traffic shaping vs rate limit
>>
>>
>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Shaping and policing are not the same beast. In addition there are a
>>> number of policing methods to choose from, and they also operate differently
>>> from each other.
>>>
>>> Your question does not include any information which suggests the use of
>>> one over the other. Based on that you could use either, but the question
>>> would normally indicate to you which to use.
>>>
>>> The doc cd has some good information explaining the differences in the
>>> various commands.
>>>
>>> Paul.
>>>
>>>
>>> John wrote:
>>>
>>>> What a great point!!! Thanks for the help. Maybe one day I'll be able
>>>> to
>>>> point out peoples ignorance of a subject by calling their questions "
>>>> ridiculous", instead of trying to clarify them. I guess that's easier
>>>> than
>>>> not replying.
>>>>
>>>> Again thanks
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Narbik Kocharians
>>>> To: John
>>>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:52 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Traffic shaping vs rate limit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Some times these questions get ridiculous, its like saying answer the
>>>> following questions:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> exactly, did you get it right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:09 AM, John <jgarrison1@austin.rr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Lets take a very ambigouis question. Make sure traffic on int x does
>>>> not
>>>> exceed 256k.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Intx
>>>>
>>>> traffic shape rate 256000 32000 0
>>>>
>>>> VS
>>>> intx
>>>>
>>>> rate-limit 256000 32000 32000 conform transmit exceed drop
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure I'm missing something to me these are the same
>>>>
>>>>
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