From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Fri Jul 04 2008 - 11:58:49 ART
When the lists are setup as CCIE's that were helped using (insert vendor
here) product, why would you discount those using multiple vendors? Unless
your study was designed to figure out who used only one vendor to prepare.
And wouldn't that logically skew to those who had been around longest?
Because that would be years of a head start.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of josh
lauer
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:06 AM
To: Brian McGahan; Felix Nkansah
Cc: Lala Lander; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Narbik Joins IPExpert....Interesting !!
I have a question, not discounting your logic here but did you
cross-reference the people that use both products? I'm curious on how that
figured into the calculations. In order to be fair I would discount the ones
that used both products in order to gain an accurate diagnostic here. To go
even further what about NMC and other providers as well. I know I used
around 4 different providers products and I'm sure many others have too.
So I would take out the people who used multiple products and then focus on
the folks that used the products singly, this would be more fair.
J
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From: "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:50 AM
To: "Felix Nkansah" <felixnkansah@gmail.com>
Cc: "Lala Lander" <sshafi@gmail.com>; "Cisco certification"
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Subject: Re: Narbik Joins IPExpert....Interesting !!
> Yes, that's true, IPExpert has been around longer. However
> Internetwork Expert has *both* the fastest growing list *and* the
> longest list of all the vendors; check for yourself:
>
> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/
> http://www.ipexpert.com/index.cfm/Success
>
> As of this morning Internetwork Expert has 784 total CCIEs on our
> list who used our products, and IPExpert has 729. This is regardless of
> the fact that Internetwork Expert is about to celebrate it's 5th
> anniversary this year, while IPExpert has been around much longer.
>
> If you compare recent CCIE's its even a much much larger
> difference. If you count just numbers above 20,000 Internetwork Expert
> has 128 people on the list as of this morning, while IPExpert has 54.
> This means that roughly 3 times as many people are passing using
> Internetwork Expert products versus IPExpert.
>
> I find it amazing that IPexpert says it "is proud to have helped
> more engineers become CCIEs than any other vendor. While others may
> claim this honor, IPexpert backs it up... the published numbers speak
> for themselves." Yes, they do speak for themselves... about outright
> false advertising ;)
>
>
>
> Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
> bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com <mailto:bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
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>
> Felix Nkansah wrote:
>> Hi Lala,
>>
>> How interesting. A poll wouldnt be necessary here I suppose.
>>
>> IE says they have the 'fastest growing list' of CCIEs. IPExpert says they
>> have the longest list of CCIEs.
>>
>> If you ask me, I wouldnt say these remarks are contradictory. They are
>> rather complementary.
>>
>> IPExpert has been around longer and I am not surprised to hear them
>> preach
>> as CCIE Vendor #1 (in terms of longest list).
>>
>> My 2 pesewas!
>>
>> Felix
>>
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