From: Jared Scrivener (jscrivener@ipexpert.com)
Date: Thu Jul 03 2008 - 00:39:08 ART
Hmmm... Sounds like you think a CCIE union could be the way to go to stop
the corporate fat cats and corrupt politicians, Joe.
We form a Limited Partnership with every CCIE as Limited Partners and then
threaten to stop the internet working unless we all get... hmmmm.... One
MILLION dollars (or was it One Hundred BILLION dollars he thinks, evilly)...
The funny bit is I reckon with no CCIE's (or JNCIE's as they could probably
learn IOS) we'd probably get somewhere in that range. Is it legal though, I
wonder... ;)
Cheers,
Jared Scrivener CCIE2 #16983 (R&S, Security), CISSP
Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: jscrivener@ipexpert.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joseph Brunner
Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2008 11:26 PM
To: 'Isabella Figarella'
Cc: 'Luan Nguyen'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Salary Question Again!
I can't speak for Scott, as his Jedi skills are far greater than mine. so I
wont dare try.
I love internetworkexpert. The moment I laid eyes on their materials last
year when I bought IEWB Vol 2, I knew I would get through that material and
get my number. I bought the printed version, and while initially
challenging, to this day it continues to grow on me. I can see why Scott
would want to work there.
NRF has said many times that if you want money just go be an banker or
trader (although some of them are surely hurting now too).
What I meant by my original reply, is to be careful and not get ripped off.
if a CCNP makes $100,000 a year, and many suck ("hey, Joe, why is the
internet running slow?"), why shouldn't someone how knows many times as
much, make at least 2x as much?
Especially in the case when you are a business asset being billed out a high
dollar rate per hour. I have heard many stories of DC area CCIE's like Luan
be billed out for like $500 a hour- I mean it's the tax payers money right,
who the hell cares? I can believe the waste, the layers of crap that are
paid for by us taxpayers! how many juiced in govt. contractors are eating
steaks and driving escalades, and flying private jets on guys like LUAN's
back.
see?
_____
From: Isabella Figarella [mailto:gigi.ccie@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:55 PM
To: Joseph Brunner
Cc: Luan Nguyen; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Salary Question Again!
Joseph,
Why do you suppose a guy like Scott Morris with 4 CCIE's is working for
someone else? Or others? I mean Narbik is a starchild and has proven that
someone can sell training for a lab at $2000.00 a head and make a decent
living.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
wrote:
$250,000, or $125 an hour corp to corp.
this is where you go to legalzoom.com <http://legalzoom.com/> get an C or S
Corp, or an LLC and pay
yourself a modest salary, pay your children, wife modest salaries (ala bill
cosby and Bryant gumble) and avoid taxes on the gross amount. the gross
amount is no longer income, its "revenue". Speak to your CPA about this, its
quite common.
Get what your worth man don't take a W2 salary to sit there and look smart
but get paid stupid.
-J
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Luan
Nguyen
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:37 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: OT: Salary Question Again!
Hi guys,
In lieu of Mister Scott Morris left for IE, and with Jared's advise :)
yep...putting you guys on the spot :P. I am thinking of testing
opportunities out...putting my resume on linkedin..etc
I am in the northern virginia area. What do you think i should start
negotiating at?
Have 10+ years of experience. Working my way from the ground up. Supported
university computer lab, Did computer carrier at the pentagon, did 12-8
night shift of computer operator...etc, worked at the IRS, the marriott
(these guys have funky networks) the last 8 years, working at an institution
of sort :) touching all things...lucent, nortel, nokia, ixia, spirent,
juniper, arbor,...etc. The last couple years started to refocus on cisco.
have ccie r&s and all sort of ccxp (np, dp, sp, vp) written ie security, sp,
written ccde :) though...i got the ccnp and ccdp back in 1999 so maybe i
should put ex-ccnp :). Back then with passing, they gave u t-shirt :) for
CCNA too i think. With CCDP, they gave you a black leather porfolio...
Thanks in advance for all inputs.
-Luan
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