From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Tue Jun 03 2008 - 03:40:24 ART
You don't find a job at all.
Walk through a big data center. all those cabinets/cages. there are a lot of
smart hungry tech guys out of work right now.
You are not alone..
-Joe
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From: R.S. CCIE [mailto:r.s.cciestudy@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:34 AM
To: Tony Schaffran (GS)
Cc: Joseph Brunner; Roger; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
What is the worst case scenario though? That is what I like to know .....
:-)
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Tony Schaffran (GS)
<groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
A CCIE with no experience, you would be lucky to get $90K
Tony Schaffran
Network Analyst
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joseph Brunner
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:35 AM
To: 'Roger'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
I was joking friend...
So we do agree!
I just finished a 28 hour marathon network overhaul and I'm home firing up
dynamips. Don't let your skill set get weakened, even for a few hours to
sleep.
I was offered a whopping $112k a year for my Jedi skills in NYC just the
other day... the economy is $@&ked! That was at a fortune 25 company!!!!
There are like 1000's of CCIE's out of work... Citigroup, Bear Sterns, BofA,
Wachovia, Merrill Lynch, Morgan, Hedge funds, these guys are bleeding cash
and are dropping IT engineering staff like there's no tomorrow... lots of
smart guys with no dojo looking for work right now...
That's about $2800 every two weeks after taxes... that MIGHT fill up my gas
tank, and put a few groceries in my house... LOL
Guys, hit the books harder than ever if you want to swim through the next 3
or 5 years...
-Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Roger
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 3:05 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
Man I hate to disagree with Joseph (and I don't all that often)
If you are brand new CCIE, and I see that you have less then 5 years exp
in large-mid size networks I won't pay better then 110-125 (with bonus).
I have seen about 3-7 CCIE's recent in about the high 18xxx's & 19xxx's
they've been able to answer CCIE questions however their real world
problem solving has made me offer them much less. Reason: if they do not
have a wide breath of experience (2 of them never worked on Cat65XX)
more time in training and supporting them will be required from team/me.
We had one that said he had worked a lot of 6509's and was a nice guy so
I took him to our server room as part of the interview and asked him
about some of the gear as I pointed it out. He couldn't tell me which
blade in the 6509 was the sup.
HOWEVER if you are going to work for a cisco vendor (gold silver etc) or
you have 6+ years, then Joseph is about right, well I hope he is =)
Good Journey!
Roger
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
> From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> Date: Sat, May 31, 2008 10:49 pm
> To: "'R.S. CCIE'" <r.s.cciestudy@gmail.com>, "'Cisco certification'"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>
>
> $140,000 with 20% bonus in writing.
>
> Anything less and I'll say lance Armstrong has more cajones than you, LA
> cabronito Vato!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
R.S.
> CCIE
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:04 AM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
>
> What would be the minimum offer (as an employee) should a brand new CCIE
> accept without hurting the CCIE prestige ? And this brand new CCIE only
has
> experience on 2600, 3800 routers.....etc. No experience on those BIG
horses.
>
>
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