From: Cliff Moseley (cliffmoseley@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri May 30 2008 - 11:18:48 ART
Keep going. It's a hell of an accomplishment.
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:36:24 +0800From: 04mgls@gmail.comTo:
cliffmoseley@hotmail.comSubject: Re: PASSED!!!
Hi Cliff,
I am from the other side of earth, Singapore.
candidate not passed exam yet. Congrats and thanks for emailing your personal
feel.
I concur.
Salute u.
On 5/30/08, Cliff Moseley <cliffmoseley@hotmail.com> wrote:
It's my turn to talk about this long road to passing. I joined this mail
listback in 2002 in order to study for my lab. I tell you what, even though
youmay not have passed your exam yet, the amount of knowledge that you
areattaining will stick with you for years. I took my test twice in the
Springof 03 and unfortunately did not pass. I put it on the shelf for
severalreasons 1) I began consulting and realized there is a ton of stuff to
learn inbusiness and also how contracting works 2) I unfortunately had run
into CCIEsthat were not helpful and struck with God complexes.Let me harp on
my past two points since some of you may not understand what Imean. Part of
becoming a CCIE is more than just passing the test, youhonestly need to have
the work experience associated with it. Experiencesmeaning the ability to
assess an unfamiliar situation, ask the rightquestions, work with others as
well as educate, and the ability to evenresearch the situation if it is
extremely complex. I ran into CCIEs thatjumped the gun and did not do these
things....ASS-uming was one of the reasonswhy they were unable to produce
positive results along with the God complex.A lot of these people make very
bad names for themselves and wind up talkedabout amongst the contracting
world.....trust me, you don't want labeled asone of the A$$hole CCIEs in this
industry......you won't find a job. LuckilyI ran into those CCIEs that had
the positive qualities I mentioned previously.This inspired me to begin my
studies again.First off everything I studied for in 02 and 03 stuck with me.
When I beganstudying again I found myself remembering most of everything or I
found myselfsaying, "Oh yeah I remember that". This definitely put me ahead
of the gamein regards to 'starting from scratch'. Of course I had to cover
all the newthings and command changes which was mindboggling at times, but I
workedthrough it. The only materials I used were Cisco books and Dynamips
usingInternetworkExperts Labs 1-10 and 11-20. I got to the point that there
was noreason to actually configure most of the sections b/c I had done it so
much itwouldn't have mattered. So instead I would just copy and paste,
frame-relayfor example, just to minimize my time. Repetition is important and
your way ofthinking is crucial. Also take a class. I took a class at ASM
EducationalCenter in Rockville MD with Narbik Kocharians 3CCIE. This dude
knows WAY toomuch and he is a hell of reference. You'll realize how much you
actually knowand don't know. Make sure, and this is critical as well, that
you think youcan pass the lab before you take the class. Narbik will cover
tons ofinformation in a short period of time and its crucial that you already
knowwhat he is talking about so you pick out the things that you may not
haveheard or our not clear on. Also have your questions ready. Before my
firstday I already had concerns I wanted to throw at him from all of my
studyingand lab scenarios which he totally cleared up!! After that class I
knew morethan enough to pass the exam.CCIE
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