From: Hoogen (hoogen82@gmail.com)
Date: Tue May 20 2008 - 20:58:54 ART
Haha.. I have been asked the same.. they are like they need me but only can
afford to pay me so much...
Cheers,
Hoogen
On 5/20/08, Dane Newman <dane.newman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know about you guys but the hardest interview question I was ask is
> will you take ten percent less then your making now
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 20, 2008, at 5:13 PM, "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
>
> Heheheheh... Stepping past boundaries has always been a specialty of mine!
>> (grin)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> keith tokash
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:37 PM
>> To: tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com
>> Cc: 'Cisco certification'
>> Subject: Interview question (was :RE: CCIE# 20863)
>>
>> Nah, I don't believe in torturing interviewees. Just a probe. Some
>> people
>> can cough up the answer and have no idea what it means, some people can't
>> answer it, some are almost insulted you asked and springboard into solid
>> detail. It's a nice soft question to gauge whether you need to ask any
>> more
>> questions in that area or should just move on tactfully. After all, you
>> never know exactly where a boundary is until you step past it.
>>
>> With a few exceptions, secrecy is deeply incompatible with democracy and
>> with science.
>> --Carl Sagan
>>
>> From: tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com
>>> To: ktokash@hotmail.com
>>> CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
>>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 14:58:42 -0500
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the point is that you can cough up that statement at will
>>> during an interview...but when you are reading your first CCNA book,
>>> that BGP statement probably doesn't make a ton of sense.
>>>
>>> And that goes back to my initial statement...a typical CCNA doesn't
>>> really understand how BGP works.
>>>
>>> If that's what you consider fun in CCNA interviews...well...I'm not
>>> sure what to say.
>>>
>>> BTW, there are regex tools out there to meet your requirements in 30
>>>
>> seconds
>>
>>> or less (for your CCIEs).
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>> Of keith tokash
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:38 PM
>>> To: Roger; Tony Varriale
>>> Cc: 'Cisco certification'
>>> Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
>>>
>>> Hahaha, intricacies yes. But I believe they drum, "BGP uses AS-PATH
>>> to avoid loops" into every CCNA student's head. At least they did
>>> when I got mine
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> 1999, and I hear it's much harder nowadays. I don't really worry if
>>> they don't know that since we don't hire entry-level people with the
>>> intention
>>>
>> of
>>
>>> having them tune/load-balance our BGP, but it's nice to poke and probe
>>> a candidate's boundaries.
>>>
>>> With a few exceptions, secrecy is deeply incompatible with democracy
>>> and with science.
>>> --Carl Sagan
>>>
>>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 12:31:15 -0700
>>>> From: divineone@divine-wind.net
>>>> Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
>>>> To: tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com
>>>> CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com; ktokash@hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>> You don't know keith
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
>>>>> From: "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com>
>>>>> Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 12:09 pm
>>>>> To: "'keith tokash'" <ktokash@hotmail.com>
>>>>> Cc: "'Cisco certification'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think expecting a typcial CCNA to know the intricacies of a
>>>>> protocol
>>>>>
>>>> is
>>> a
>>>
>>>> bit over zealous, no?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>>>>> Behalf Of keith tokash
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:13 PM
>>>>> To: theKonqueror; A.G. Ananth Sarma (GMail)
>>>>> Cc: Cisco certification
>>>>> Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
>>>>>
>>>>> Good move. When I see CCNA on a resume my mind jumps to interview
>>>>>
>>>> questions
>>>
>>>> like, "what is BGP's loop prevention mechanism?" When I see CCIE
>>>>> on a resume it jumps to, "what's the regex to filter transit
>>>>> routes from our ISPs,
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>
>>>> if
>>>>> we didn't want to use a regex, how else could we filter?"
>>>>>
>>>>> If I see CCNA *AND* CCIE, my question will come out something
>>>>> like,
>>>>>
>>>> "what
>>> is
>>>
>>>> our ISP's loop transit prevention regex?" and my brain will
>>>>>
>>>> blue-screen.
>>
>>>
>>>>> With a few exceptions, secrecy is deeply incompatible with
>>>>> democracy
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>
>>> with
>>>>> science.
>>>>> --Carl Sagan
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 23:12:19 +0530
>>>>>> From: thekonqueror@gmail.com
>>>>>> To: ananth.sarma@gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: CCIE# 20863
>>>>>> CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks everyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although I don't want to get into the certification value
>>>>>>
>>>>> discussions,
>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>> too
>>>>>
>>>>>> agree with Joseph about loosing charm of RHCE. I got it few
>>>>>> years
>>>>>>
>>>>> back
>>
>>> when
>>>>>
>>>>>> it was still cool. I don't feel like recertifying it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyways, I dropped CCNA from my signature as per orders of Mr
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>> Morris
>>>
>>>> :P
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks once again for all your support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Rahul Nagare
>>>>>> RHCE, CCIE#20863 R&S
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> http://thekonqueror.blogspot.com
>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/thekonqueror
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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