From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Tue May 20 2008 - 18:13:19 ART
Heheheheh... Stepping past boundaries has always been a specialty of mine!
(grin)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
keith tokash
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:37 PM
To: tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com
Cc: 'Cisco certification'
Subject: Interview question (was :RE: CCIE# 20863)
Nah, I don't believe in torturing interviewees. Just a probe. Some people
can cough up the answer and have no idea what it means, some people can't
answer it, some are almost insulted you asked and springboard into solid
detail. It's a nice soft question to gauge whether you need to ask any more
questions in that area or should just move on tactfully. After all, you
never know exactly where a boundary is until you step past it.
With a few exceptions, secrecy is deeply incompatible with democracy and
with science.
--Carl Sagan
> From: tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com
> To: ktokash@hotmail.com
> CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 14:58:42 -0500
>
>
> I think the point is that you can cough up that statement at will
> during an interview...but when you are reading your first CCNA book,
> that BGP statement probably doesn't make a ton of sense.
>
> And that goes back to my initial statement...a typical CCNA doesn't
> really understand how BGP works.
>
> If that's what you consider fun in CCNA interviews...well...I'm not
> sure what to say.
>
> BTW, there are regex tools out there to meet your requirements in 30
seconds
> or less (for your CCIEs).
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of keith tokash
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:38 PM
> To: Roger; Tony Varriale
> Cc: 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
>
> Hahaha, intricacies yes. But I believe they drum, "BGP uses AS-PATH
> to avoid loops" into every CCNA student's head. At least they did
> when I got mine
in
> 1999, and I hear it's much harder nowadays. I don't really worry if
> they don't know that since we don't hire entry-level people with the
> intention
of
> having them tune/load-balance our BGP, but it's nice to poke and probe
> a candidate's boundaries.
>
> With a few exceptions, secrecy is deeply incompatible with democracy
> and with science.
> --Carl Sagan
>
> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 12:31:15 -0700
> > From: divineone@divine-wind.net
> > Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
> > To: tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com
> > CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com; ktokash@hotmail.com
> >
> > You don't know keith
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
> > > From: "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com>
> > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 12:09 pm
> > > To: "'keith tokash'" <ktokash@hotmail.com>
> > > Cc: "'Cisco certification'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > I think expecting a typcial CCNA to know the intricacies of a
> > > protocol
> is
> a
> > > bit over zealous, no?
> > >
> > > Tony
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > Behalf Of keith tokash
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:13 PM
> > > To: theKonqueror; A.G. Ananth Sarma (GMail)
> > > Cc: Cisco certification
> > > Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
> > >
> > > Good move. When I see CCNA on a resume my mind jumps to interview
> questions
> > > like, "what is BGP's loop prevention mechanism?" When I see CCIE
> > > on a resume it jumps to, "what's the regex to filter transit
> > > routes from our ISPs,
> and
> > > if
> > > we didn't want to use a regex, how else could we filter?"
> > >
> > > If I see CCNA *AND* CCIE, my question will come out something
> > > like,
> "what
> is
> > > our ISP's loop transit prevention regex?" and my brain will
blue-screen.
> > >
> > > With a few exceptions, secrecy is deeply incompatible with
> > > democracy
and
> > > with
> > > science.
> > > --Carl Sagan
> > >
> > > > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 23:12:19 +0530
> > > > From: thekonqueror@gmail.com
> > > > To: ananth.sarma@gmail.com
> > > > Subject: Re: CCIE# 20863
> > > > CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > >
> > > > Thanks everyone.
> > > >
> > > > Although I don't want to get into the certification value
discussions,
> I
> > > too
> > > > agree with Joseph about loosing charm of RHCE. I got it few
> > > > years
back
> > > when
> > > > it was still cool. I don't feel like recertifying it...
> > > >
> > > > Anyways, I dropped CCNA from my signature as per orders of Mr
> > > > Scott
> Morris
> > > > :P
> > > >
> > > > Thanks once again for all your support.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rahul Nagare
> > > > RHCE, CCIE#20863 R&S
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > http://thekonqueror.blogspot.com
> > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/thekonqueror
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> > > >
> > > >
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