From: Cisco Nuts (cisconuts@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue May 20 2008 - 11:38:40 ART
Very well spoken...Sir Morris !!
:-)
BTW: Recently, we have had complaints like this come from usually across the
pond and from members of a particular diversity?? Why I wonder ??
PEACE !!!
> From: swm@emanon.com
> To: samarth_04@hotmail.com; jatinder.p.singh@bt.com; ccie2sale@gmail.com
> CC: jnccia@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Fraud CCIE2BE.COM
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:11:26 -0400
>
> I think the whole thing gets blown out of proportion when you (or anyone)
> comes in using harsh terms like "fraud" or "stupidity" and other
> no-grey-area terms like that.
>
> As I'm sure you can figure out if you've been on the board for any length
of
> time, every vendor out there lab/workbook/bootcamp/whatever has people who
> have had good experiences and people who have bad experiences. All of them
> have an equal right to share their opinions, but always keep in mind that
> they are opinions and do not demonstrate any 100% factual "only" view of
the
> world.
>
> Just as much as anyone comes out and may say "you are great" (makes you
feel
> good, huh?) someone may come out and day "you are an idiot". The latter
> doesn't feel nearly as good, but both are equally worthy in the grand
scheme
> of things.
>
> While we may certainly like it when people agree with everything we say, it
> doesn't make it right, wrong or otherwise if people do or do not. Don't
> take it as a personal attack. That was your buddy JP's problem a few
> month's ago. Don't take things so personally if something goes wrong on a
> temporary basis.
>
> Nothing wrong with being pissed at the world, but deal with the idea that
> nobody is 100% right 100% of the time! Especially when it comes to
> opinions.
>
> Now, you may of course have the right to agree with me or disagree with me.
> You can tell me I'm great, or you can tell me I'm an idiot. In the end,
you
> are entitled to your opinion, but don't expect everyone to agree with
> whatever that opinion is. Personally, I enjoy it more when people don't
> agree with me because that means I get to argue .... Errrr... Have a
> discussion. ;)
>
> Congratulations on your accumulated knowledge. Now go use it to good
> application, and try not to let the world get you down along the way. Many
> other people have had good experiences with CCIE2BE, and in the future I'm
> sure that there will always be both good and bad ones.
>
> Very much like your recent friend from across the pond there, I'm sure
there
> will be others who don't like the outcome of their CCIE Voice experiences
> from Ipexpert's bootcamp. There are still plenty of others out there who
do
> like it, and still plenty of other vendor's who have their instructors
> trained in that same bootcamp. Obviously things work for some people but
> not for others! Don't blame the world though!
>
> If the date of your posting is August, and we're still referencing July's
> problem, that may put a different persective on things, but in the
meantime,
> tone down the words a little bit, and you may find people more willing to
> work to solve a problem rather than reacting so much in defense!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Scott
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> SAMARTH
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:53 AM
> To: jatinder.p.singh@bt.com; ccie2sale@gmail.com
> Cc: jnccia@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Fraud CCIE2BE.COM
>
> Dear CCIE2SALE@gmail.com, CCIE2be.com and their friends ie Narabik,
>
> Just to clarify my experience. I am an engineering student at the
University
> of Greenwich, London. Along with my academic studies I have studied CCIE.
At
> the age of 21 I passed the CCIE lab exam. I have knowledge of 3 tracks in
> CCIE ie RS, Security, SP and I am presently studying Voice. I thankful for
> Internetworkexpert for all their materials like the world class COD,
> workbooks and racks for all the 4 tracks. They have given me good discount
> always (Thanks Brian and Misty) I have enrolled for their voice classes. I
> have also attended several bootcamps of Mr Khawar Butt which helped me
> master the RS and security track, alpha to omega.
>
> No company has sponsored money for the bootcamps, materials and the lab
> exams; I have earned money on my own and from my parents to buy all these
> services which are worth several thousands of dollors. Tell me which
> presently academic student has become a ccie while doing this university.
> Brian Mcgahan is great has be passed it when he was 20 years.
>
> I have hands on experience is some of my university project. My university
> is big and has many 6509, firewalls, Ids, several multilayered switches and
> routers.
>
> Besides networking, I am also a system programmer with detailed knowledge
of
> unix operating system, some Kernel programming and other administrative
> shell scripting. At the age of 22 I have knowledge of 3ccie tracks. Because
> of my university exams I was unable to take the remaining lab exams.
>
> Just because I raised my worry about the bad experience on ccie2be.com.
> Their friends ie Narabik and the unknown ccie2sale@gmail.com started to
> accuse me personally. I can understand that narabik is a close friend of
> David; I GUESS that Narabik has some of his old TrinetNT devices at
> ccie2be.com. Who is this ccie2sale@gmail.com. Doesn't he have a name? I
have
> been a customer with cconlinelabs.com for nearing 2years and have bought
> more than 100-150 sessions or even 200 sessions. I have never experienced
> any problem. Tony is a great guy and gives quick support. He is the single
> person who handles the entire operation there. David Lee needs to learn
from
> Tony Schaffran on how to maintain good service. I have also used
> Racktimerentals, even that is great.
>
> BUT REMEBER that CCIE2be.com provided me very bad service. At first I made
a
> payment 1200usd way in advance to book the racks for the entire July month.
> After few months I enquired about the reservation casually then ccie2be.com
> replied back to saying that I had never made a payment to them. After
> several emails I proved them about the payment made. After this when they
> finally put up the schedule, the totally missed my reservation. I sent them
> emails regarding this and I got no reply. After posting to group study and
> after all the drama here. They put my schedules. They have told their phony
> friend ccie2sale@gmail.com to accuse me personally. Many people have
> complained about ccie2be, It's not only myself.
>
> For all the people who have accused me. I feel compassionate to their
> stupidity and I suggest the following methods to drive out the rubbish in
> their mind.
>
> 1) OSHO's Dynamic Meditation. Take a look that this link
>
>
http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Meditation&Sub1Menu=ActiveMeditation&Sub2M
> enu=Dynamic
>
> 2) Primal Therapy- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primal_therapy
>
> 3) Psychotherapy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotherapy
>
> Best Wishes,
> C SAMARTH
> CCIE #18535
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jatinder.p.singh@bt.com [mailto:jatinder.p.singh@bt.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:19 AM
> To: ccie2sale@gmail.com; samarth_04@hotmail.com
> Cc: jnccia@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Fraud CCIE2BE.COM
>
> Dear all,
>
> I think when you give your reporting about vendor and Give clear picture to
> people. Some Guys who are there Rep on Group study Start crying. Same is
> happened with me When I have given the clear picture of IP Expert.
>
> Any way Who cares...
>
> Keep it up SAMARTH
>
> REGARDS
>
> J P Singh
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com on behalf of cciesale sale
> Sent: Sun 5/18/2008 10:17
> To: SAMARTH
> Cc: Joshua; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Fraud CCIE2BE.COM
>
>
>
> Infact iam not drunk , but lost your conscience when you heard the truth
> ..and realizing your fact.
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:56 AM, SAMARTH <samarth_04@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Take it cool Mr.CCIESALE, you seem to be drunk.
> >
> > Best Wishes.
> > C SAMARTH
> > CCIE #18535
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of cciesale sale
> > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:52 PM
> > To: C SAMARTH
> > Cc: Joshua; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Fraud CCIE2BE.COM
> >
> > all his certificates are fake , i you r supporting him then you also
> > have
> a
> > fake certificates a faker can only support another faker
> >
> > FAKE CCIE's no pracitcal knowlege just dump people wasting the name of
> > Cisco
> >
> > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:21 PM, C SAMARTH <samarth_04@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > You seem to be a slow brain who cant do hard work. This list is for
> > > hard working people. Best Wishes,C SAMARTHCCIE #18535CCSP CCNP
> > > CCNAMCSE MCSD
> > > SCSA1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 17:10:30 +0300> From: ccie2sale@gmail.com> To:
> > > samarth_04@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Fraud CCIE2BE.COM> CC:
> > > jnccia@gmail.com;
> > > ccielab@groupstudy.com> > Samarth what i know i that you are also
> > > fake ccie , direct from ccna to ccie> without any experience you
> > > should expect to interact with same type of> people> > > > > > On
> > > Sat, May 17, 2008 at 8:37 AM, SAMARTH <samarth_04@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:> > > I don't think so they are THE BEST after what they have
> > > done, just COMMON> > SENSE.> >> > Best Wishes> > C
> > SAMARTH>
> > > >
> > > CCIE #18535> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From:
> > > nobody@groupstudy.com
> > > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> > Narbik Kocharians> >
> > Sent:
> > > Saturday, May 17, 2008 4:51 AM> > To: Joshua> > Cc: SAMARTH;
> > > ccielab@groupstudy.com> > Subject: Re: Fraud CCIE2BE.COM> >> > I use
> > these
> > > guys for my boot camps and they are THE BEST.> >> > On Fri, May 16,
> > > 2008
> > at
> > > 6:02 PM, Joshua <jnccia@gmail.com> wrote:> >> > > Had only one
> > > problem with CCIE2BE and they not only> > > took care of the
> > > problem, they credited
> me
> > > for
> > > the lost> > > two days. I have been using them since last October
> > > of> >
> >
> > > 2007, and still use them without issue.> > >> > > CCIE2BE is not a
> > fraud.>
> > > >
> > > >> > > Josh> > >> > > -----Original Message-----> > > From:
> > > nobody@groupstudy.com> > > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > SAMARTH> > > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 5:55 PM> > > To:
> > > ccielab@groupstudy.com> > > Subject: Fraud CCIE2BE.COM <
> > > http://ccie2be.com/>>
> > > > >> > > Hello Group,> > >> > >> > >> > > This is to let you know
> > > > >> > > that
> > > there
> > > is a certain online> > > rack rental site that> > > is taking money
> > > from the candidates and not providing> > > services.> > >> > > Few
> > > months back I
> > had
> > > paid ccie2be.com 1200 usd to book> > > racks for me in the> > >
> > > month of July.
> > > After few months of the payment they> > > totally forgot about me.>
> > > > > Then I had to remind them through several emails.> > > Finally
> > > they have
> missed>
> > >
> > > >
> > > my reserved schedules for the month of July.> > >> > > Several of my
> > > friends had login problem, power supply> > > problem and problems> >
> > > > due to
> > wrong
> > > scheduling.> > >> > > I have used cconlinelabs since 2 years,
> > > racktimerental>
> > > > > and> > > internetworkexpert, never faced any problems at all. I>
> > > > > and> > > > >
> > > did a
> > > mistake for> > > choosing ccie2be.> > >> > >> > >> > > BEWARE OF
> > > THESE FRAUDS.> > >> > >> > >> > > Best Wishes.> > >> > > C SAMARTH>
> > > > >> > >
> > CCIE
> > > #18535> > >> > >> > >
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