From: Tony Varriale (tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com)
Date: Thu May 15 2008 - 14:49:59 ART
Not directed towards anyone specifically...
There are base discounts based on partner level (and if you don't buy direct
you can negotiate with the distributor).
But, if you aren't in some sort of sales role and don't understand what goes
on on top of the partner based discounts, then you don't know what else is
going on. :)
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Wes
Stevens
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:40 PM
To: sheherezada@gmail.com; Joseph Brunner
Cc: Dane Newman; rom raj; Richard L. Pickard; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: CCIE Benefits.
"They can get much better discounts (say around 50%) than a Gold Partner can
give to its regular customers."
That is bull.....
----- Original Message ----
From: "sheherezada@gmail.com" <sheherezada@gmail.com>
To: Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
Cc: Dane Newman <dane.newman@gmail.com>; rom raj <romraj1@gmail.com>;
Richard L. Pickard <richardlpickard@hotmail.com>; Cisco certification
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:55:41 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE Benefits.
I see things differently from my side of the world. Many of my
customers already have big discounts on the official channel, because
they are global customers and have frame agreements with Cisco. They
can get much better discounts (say around 50%) than a Gold Partner can
give to its regular customers. Such customers only have to nominate a
preferred partner, be it Gold certified or not. Actually, my company
is not even a Silver Partner yet. And the discount scheme does not
matter too much either, because we get 80% from services.
However, it is a matter of credibility. We want the Silver and then
Gold partner status because it is a strong market differentiator
(especially on a market with only one true Gold partner). Then,
customers do care if they are serviced or consulted by a CCIE instead
of a "regular" engineer (which is much more challenged, if accepted,
regardless of practical experience).
Mihai
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
wrote:
> Makes no difference... people looking for deep discounts these days buy
from
> the secondary market (like networkhardware.com)
>
> I tell my clients I can't get you a discount like a Gold partner, but I'll
> make it up by not charging you $375.00 an hour for my CCIE implementation
> efforts...
>
> I work with NHS to push gear...
>
> Frankly, I don't know many companys that buy new cisco gear, the attitude
is
> its on smartnet anyway from networkhardware, do we really care?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Dane
> Newman
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:35 PM
> To: rom raj
> Cc: Richard L. Pickard; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: CCIE Benefits.
>
> What is the percentage discount for gold
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 14, 2008, at 9:21 AM, "rom raj" <romraj1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, it's Value Added Reseller.
>>
>> Raj
>>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:01 PM, rom raj <romraj1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Richard,
>>>
>>> What is VAR?
>>>
>>> Raj
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Richard L. Pickard <
>>> richardlpickard@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mainly - a VAR gets a better price from Cisco on hardware
>>>> depending on
>>>> how many certified people the VAR has on their payroll. This
>>>> includes all
>>>> Cisco certs - not just CCIE. It's based on a points system &
>>>> needless to
>>>> say the CCIE is the most points. If you have multiple CCIE's
>>>> [like me]
>>>> they get extra points & you can leverage that to get them to pay
>>>> you more.
>>>>
>>>> So if you already have your CCIE or are working on it you are
>>>> gonna get
>>>> paid big $$$$ & you can thank Cisco for that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> R
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rom raj" <romraj1@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:44 AM
>>>> Subject: CCIE Benefits.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone summarize the benefits cisco offers to the company
>>>>> when a
>>>>> ccie
>>>>> joins?.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Raj
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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