Re: what to do next?

From: Ryan (ryan95842@gmail.com)
Date: Tue May 13 2008 - 12:24:58 ART


And how long to you sit there staring at the output trying to
interrupt what it says?

You'd be better off spending your time learning the technologies than
a bunch of aliases that are only going to save you a few seconds over
the course of a day...

My 2 cents

-Ryan

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:49 AM, ccie az <ccieaz@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I am not sure if its just me but I disagree in regards to alias
> commands. I dont use many though just 5 roughly.
>
> For example c for config t, r for show ip route, p for show ip
> protocols, s for show ip int br, and b for show ip bgp
>
> If you think about how many times you use c and r for example alone:
> typing 6-10 less keys every time saves loads of time over the course
> of a 8 hour lab, imo.
>
> And for the sake of putting them into notepad and pasting them into
> each device i think it worth the effort at the start of the lab.
> Anyone else agree?
>
> Az
>
> 2008/5/13 Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello@gmail.com>:
>
>
> > I'm not a big fan of aliases either. I think that it's all about
> > achieving your goal by typing as few keystrokes as possible. Nail
> > down the IOS keyboard shortcuts and regular expressions.
> >
> > How about....... s run | s eigrp - even more efficient!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Joseph Brunner
> > <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
> > > I don't recommend aliases...
> > >
> > > I saw (yes just like your post on tcpmag) that the folks who start the lab
> > > start a little too fast (understatement)
> > >
> > > Even before opening her book I saw some Russian chick slam like 50 aliases
> > > in the router...
> > >
> > > I like to say "think about the command you are going type, why are you going
> > > to type it, what is the core issue you are looking for information on"
> > >
> > > For instance;
> > >
> > > Don't just bang out sien (show ip eigrp neighbors) on a damn alias all
> > > day...
> > >
> > > Why not begin with
> > >
> > > "show run | b router eigrp"
> > >
> > > You'll spend 5 seconds fixing a bad eigrp network statement or
> > > redistribution issue vs. like 20 minutes figuring out why a route is not at
> > > a place it needs to be.
> > >
> > > I didn't use one damn alias the whole trip to become a man...
> > >
> > > And I wont on the next three...
> > >
> > > -Joe
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Scott Morris
> > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:27 PM
> > > To: 'Bill Eyer'; 'Brian Dennis'
> > > Cc: 'Carlos Trujillo'; 'ahmed badr'; 'Cisco certification'
> > > Subject: RE: what to do next?
> > >
> > > If you are looking at developing speed by itself, you're thinking about it a
> > > little shortsighted (IMHO). Look at it more from the "how can I do it
> > > faster" by using things like aliases, or notepad, cut/paste, etc. It's a
> > > process, not a race.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE-M
> > > #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
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> > > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> > > Eyer
> > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:03 PM
> > > To: Brian Dennis
> > > Cc: Carlos Trujillo; ahmed badr; Cisco certification
> > > Subject: Re: what to do next?
> > >
> > > Brian,
> > >
> > > I think you recommended taking one lab and doing it over and over again to
> > > develop speed, but it wasn't the entire workbook.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > Brian Dennis wrote:
> > > > Carlos,
> > > > It's not recommended to do all 20 Vol II labs 6 or 7 times. That
> > > > would be crazy ;-) There are different approaches that we recommend
> > > > but it is based upon the individual candidate.
> > > >
> > > > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > > > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > > >
> > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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> > > > Direct: +1-775-544-1653 (Outside the US and Canada)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>
> > > > Subject: Re: what to do next?
> > > > Date: Mon, May 12, 2008 9:54
> > > > From: "Carlos Trujillo" <carlos.trujillo.jimenez@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Yes, after finishing a vendor workbook you may know your weak areas,
> > > >> and do all once again, but focusing in your weak areas, then its
> > > >> better to try
> > > >>
> > > > mock
> > > >
> > > >> labs.
> > > >>
> > > >> Internetworkexpert guys, recommend doing their workbook around 6 or 7
> > > >>
> > > > times!
> > > >
> > > >> I think its too much, but it depends in the candidate.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 2008/5/11, ahmed badr <eng.ahmedbadr@gmail.com>:
> > > >>
> > > >>> After finishing the WB for one vendor, is it recommended to solve it
> > > >>> once again or go and solve the WB of another vendor?
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