From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Sat May 03 2008 - 22:07:31 ART
From a long trusted, close friend (who works a top 10 ISP) he told me the
big brass there don't value the SP so much. Several of their guys who have
it aren't really running the show. He told me it doesn't really cover enough
of what they are doing, and many engineers there don't have it/want it.
NRF would like this, but the real decision makers there (and I am assuming
elsewhere) are holders of advanced degrees with years of management
experience. Their exhaustive network design rationale and judgment comes
from being in the field.
He talked with his boss about getting the SP to move up to a senior role. I
am told this role pays around $120,000.
I think Juniper is now a big player in the ISP world and that has to have
distracted from the SP's total value.
I think the value of the SP is quite high with consultants though. I often
have to talk to carriers about MPLS and providing network based firewall
service (or not) and designing how this is going to work for a customer.
I see the SP as a value add to my clients. I can actually say that I have
some understanding of what the services are that I'm assisting in the
recommendation, procurement and management of.
Why not just get it because you are interested in and would appreciate a
strong knowledge in the technologies it covers?
-Joe
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
study buddy
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 7:48 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: CCIE R/S vs SP payscales/available work
I'm working steadily on my SP cert. I'm really curious about the jobs out
there and the pay. With an R/S, from friends and people I know payscales
range between 100-150k for a decent engineer with a CCIE R/S. Can a guy make
that much money working with ISPs, or with a routing/MPLS skillset, vs
Security/Voice? How is the demand for the SP. What types of companies are
after it?
James
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