From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Fri May 02 2008 - 22:37:36 ART
>Call your senator/representative.
That's if they still speak English.
USA 2040, Population 500 Million
50% Native Spanish speaking
20% Asian native speaking (Chinese, Pilipino, Indian, Korean, et. al)
10% Arabic, Eastern European Native
10% English Native Speaking
6% French African, African Other, West African Native Speaking
4% Other native speaking
Now, for how much longer will the 200+ Million immigrants even bother
teaching their children English?
Get over it.
The days of our politicians reading their home delivery copy of "National
Vanguard" in English are numbered...
LOL
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Morris
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:46 PM
To: 'Javier Liendo'; 'Joseph Hao'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Si Seqor!!!
Wow, we've gone well-off the beaten path....
For one, english is considered a "global language" as a significant amount
of worldwide business (and virtually all technical training) is delivered in
english.
However, even though this domain/listserver is based on American soil, I'm
pretty sure that doesn't guarantee any sovereign rights!
So whether we're bitching about dialing a specific digit in order to find
someone who speaks the de facto native tongue or not is really a completely
different debate.
On the flip side, while yes, it irritates the shit out of me when people
immigrate to a new country (especially if it's illegal immigration) and sue
in order to have things done in their former native language which they
left. But that really is a whole different venue. :)
Nobody immigrated to this list. It just is. This has been going on for a
long time though. I distinctly remember covering the Olympic Festival in
Los Angeles (circa 1991) and walking into a McDonalds in downtown LA and not
being able to read the menu. Thank goodness for the bright idea of picture
menus ('cause I can't read braille either!). But that wasn't Spanish
believe it or not. It was Vietnamese. Just happened to be the district I
was in at the time.
Whaddya do? Bitch and whine, but not here. Call your
senator/representative. In the meantime, it's our own problem for going
without an official language for 200+ years. :)
Scott
PS. Still has nothing to do with the CCIE!
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Javier Liendo
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:17 PM
To: Joseph Hao
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Si Seqor!!!
> speaking Chinese. It's common sense. English is the Language of the
> United States, Learn it or get out.
i did promise my self to stop feeding the troll, but you just keep begging
for it... since when is this list considered "american soil"?
> Tell me Javier, Do you have "Press 2 for English" in your country?
as a matter of fact i have to do it...and this brings me to a whole other
point: if you just for a second could stick your head out of your butt and
tried to know a little more of the world around you, you would find that
this is a pretty common occurrence, specially in this global corporate
world...
> So stop this crap and learn English just like every other immigrant.
just to try to understand: what bio-chemical reactions in your brain makes
you think that victor or my self or as a matter of fact any other non-native
english speaking in this list wants to be an inmigrant in the US?
if there is something that has to stop here is your "america uber alles"
crap...
On 5/2/08, Joseph Hao <jthao1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Tell me Javier, Do you have "Press 2 for English" in your country?
>
> This is typical demagoguery, accuse people of racism.
>
> As you can probably see, I am not white American, I am Chinese.
> Learning English was difficult for me also. But I don't force people
> to listen to me speaking Chinese. It's common sense. English is the
> Language of the United States, Learn it or get out.
>
> So stop this crap and learn English just like every other immigrant.
>
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Javier Liendo" <javier@liendo.net>
> To: "Joseph Hao" <jthao1@hotmail.com>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: Si Seqor!!!
>
>
> > > It's bad enough that we have to put up with the "Press 2 para
Espanol"
> crap,
> > > now we have to put up with foreign speakers in this group.
> >
>
> > you are so wrong on so different levels that i don't even know where
> > to start, but how about stopping your racist crap as a start?
> >
> > On 5/2/08, Joseph Hao <jthao1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hate to say it, but I agree with Tom.
> > >
> > > If you have a question, use English to benefit the entire group.
> > >
> > > If you passed the Lab, use Engilish to encourage the entrie
> group > > > > If you don't speak English well, at least those who
> respond who knows > > English should use English > > > > I don't
> care who the God or DemiGod is in this group. We can't afford to >
> > have Cliques and small groups forming in this list. It's
> counter-productive > > and destructive for this group. If you
> insist on using whatever language > > you want, Go form your own
> mailing list.
> > >
> > > English is the language for Commerce, use it > > English is
> the language of Technology, use it
>
> > > Engilish is the language of Diplomacy, use it
>
> > > English is the language of the United States, use it if you want
> > > to
> stay in
> > > the United States.
> > >
> > > It's bad enough that we have to put up with the "Press 2 para
Espanol"
> crap,
> > > now we have to put up with foreign speakers in this group.
> > >
>
> > > Thanks
> > > Joseph
> > > CCIE #9273
> > >
> > >
> > > BTW, I've been a member here since 2001 > > > > > > > >
> ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "ccie girl"
> <ccieangel@googlemail.com> > > To: "Cisco certification"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com> > > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:14 AM >
> > Subject: Re: Si Seqor!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Me thinks Tom is a newer member and not aware of Victors demi
> God status.
> > > >
> > > > We'll let him off this time ;) > > > > > > If only I could
> speak IOS like Victor speaks English...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/2/08, tom nohwa <tom.nohwa@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > USE ONLY ENGLISH.
> > > > >
> > > > > If everyone starts writing in their own language, what will
> happen?.
> > > Use
> > > > > your brain!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > 2008/4/30 Victor Cappuccio <vcappuccio@gmail.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Pase el lab!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Primero sobre todas las cosas Gracias a *DIOS*!!!!
> > > > > > Quien me dio fuerzas para seguir continuando > > > > >
> > > > > > A mis 2 hijos *Ana y Andris* los quiero mucho!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gracias a muchos de esta lista quienes me han incentivado
> a continuar > > > > > estudiando, hasta lograr pasar este
> obstaculo, muchas gracias sobre > > > > todo > > > > > a > > >
> > > instructores como Tarun, Anderson, Scott Morris, Petr, Narbik, y
> los > > > > > magnmficos Brians sobre todo, > > > > > > > > > >
> Gracias Brian Denis mis sinceros agradecimientos!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gracias a los Proctors de Bruselas, Sr. Eric y Bruno con
> el otro > > colega > > > > > que > > > > > no recuerdo su
> nombre, por toda la ayuda prestada en preguntas!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gracias a compaqmas como GlobalKnowledge (Maria eres la
> mejor
> jefe) y
> > > a
> > > > > > Protokol (Juan Bozza quien simpre me ayudo de manera
> incondicional)
> > > > > > Gracias Brad Ellis, por enseqarme muchas cosas de la vida
> en tan > > corto > > > > > tiempo (aunque aun me debas dinero
> amigo!) > > > > > > > > > > Muchas gracias a muchos amigos (nick,
> sarita, frog, romain, muchos > > mas) > > > > > > > > > > Ahora
> a continuar para otro mas, que mas da verdad :) > > > > > > > > >
> > Saludos y mucha suerte a todos > > > > > Este viaje ha sido Pasada
> !!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > aun no me lo creo!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Victor Cappuccio
> > > > > > CCIE (R/S) #20657
> > > > > > CCSI 7#31452
> > > > > > www.vcappuccio.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PD:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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