From: Luca Hall (lhall@setnine.com)
Date: Tue Apr 08 2008 - 18:54:35 ART
shouldn't the mlm software not be allowing non-registered emails/addresses
to make it to the list; especially since their not register messages?
> Oops.. meant to send this to the list....
>
> Actually, this practice is called joe-jobbing and a lot of it can be
> corrected with the use of SPF records.  I'm talking with Paul now
> about setting one up to hopefully reduce/eliminate this.
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Guy Sherr <gsherr@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is not the work of a jackass spammer.  The work is more likely
>>  the result of a bot-net doing the work of army for a jackass spammer.
>>  Secondarily, the spam is actually being "returned" to the sender, who
>>  presumably needs to change the address.  I can think of a couple of
>>  tweaks to smtp (that is, the protocol) which would put an end to this
>>  practice, however, as it is now, there is no reasonable measurement
>>  for deciding whether to automatically determine whether the mail
>>  should be marked as spam.
>>
>>  The question really breaks on a spoof mechanism.  When the smtp server
>>  collects "your" return note, it should be given to you strictly
>>  because it is, by definition, a message you "demanded" so you could
>>  know whether your email got out.
>>
>>  Tweaks?  The protocol could allow for a 'dead' addressee at the near
>>  end (where this message is supposed to be coming from).  If the
>>  sender's email address maps to a mail exchanger, and the mail
>>  exchanger's ip address is not the same as that of the machine
>>  returning your email, then the notice goes in the garbage.
>>
>>  The problem is that means about 1,000,000,000 extra DNS lookups per
>> day.
>>
>>  --
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>>  by." -- Douglas Adams (author of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)
>>
>>
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