From: Matt Bentley (mattdbentley@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Mar 02 2008 - 21:05:44 ARST
Just my two cents:
I agree the lab takes a ton of time - but how many tons depends entirely on
HOW you study - less emphasis on how much. Stay fresh. I think a lot of
people run themselves into the ground and then keep on going at about 20%
focus for hours and hours. Take breaks when you need them - but when you
study, STUDY. I have heard of people not looking at email, disconnecting
access to the internet, etc., while they study to stay focused. Anyways,
moderation in all things - even with the CCIE lab. Good luck!
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Scott Vermillion <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>
wrote:
> In all seriousness, I did give up nearly all of my favorite distractions
> for
> the period of Sept - Feb. I do not watch television (oh, Letterman and
> Discovery HD occasionally) or movies (less than 1/yr is probably about my
> lifetime average). I did give up (more or less) my beloved collection of
> Cubans, which if properly smoked, can chew up two or three hours of an
> evening. Perhaps this contributed to my reaching that burnout phase,
> though? I don't really know for sure. But I can tell you that once I got
> back up on that horse in early Jan, the final four weeks were focus,
> focus,
> focus and I was no longer bothered with any nagging, lingering symptoms of
> burnout; I was actually more or less enjoying myself again. During this
> time, I gave up my thrice-weekly trips to the gym (possibly a mistake) and
> my kids started bringing dinner to my desk and clearing it for me an hour
> or
> so later (and that was generally the one meal a day I managed to get in).
> I
> followed my own advice and dropped off the list, e-mail, and
> landline/cell.
> It was not a pleasant lifestyle and not one I look forward to readopting
> anytime soon. All I can say for sure is that my little rebellious phase
> and
> the break it led to were ultimately what allowed me to regain my focus and
> to get my head out long enough to see that train (aka "The Beast")
> barreling
> down the track, ready or not (they take the brakes out of that sucker 28
> days before it comes smashing into the terminating station)!
>
> And Rik is telling you the flat truth. He predicted back in August with
> cunning accuracy what I had laid in store for myself and how it would all
> unfold (no swap for a December date for me, eh Rik?). So listen to him if
> not to me, he's pretty well got this routine dialed in...
>
> Cheers all,
>
> Scott
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Joseph Brunner
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 3:32 PM
> To: 'keith tokash'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Study schedule
>
> >On weekends I almost never go anywhere, just alternate between lab work
> and
> >taking Netflix + food breaks.
>
> Why I suspect I needed 4 trips to get my number, while Scott Vermillion
> only
> needed 1.
>
> You need to drop all the extraneous bull shit.
>
> Your morning routine is also garbage. Here is my answer to you.
>
> Leave your house EARLY (by 4:30am). RUSH to work.
>
> DO all your studying BEFORE anyone gets in. by 10am you HAVE all your
> studying done for the day. Anything else is gravy.
>
> Study at little more, perhaps the debugs you captured during your lab
> study
> in the early morning. Makes notes... now take all the notes you made at
> lunch to the doc cd in the afternoon. If you study at night, only study
> the
> doc cd. On the weekends, sleep in. don't get up to early. Your body will
> have a sleep debt you need to pay off each week. At about noon, hit the
> lab
> hard with full 8 hour labs. End the weekend days with reviewing your
> configs, and debugs. Take notes as you go through them. Resolve any
> uncertainties with the doc cd.
>
> This is my study routine for the next three.
>
> You'll never get anywhere with netflix.
>
> Just a friendly help.
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> keith tokash
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:38 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Study schedule
>
> Dear Abby,
>
> I hate to say this, but I'm really burning out here and would like to
> compare
> notes a little. I wake up at 5.30am each weekday, but I'm a slow riser so
> I
> may not quite make it out of bed right away. Average time to start lab
> work
> =
> 7am. I go until 9-9.15am, then head to work. I get home about 6-7pm (3
> mile
> commute) and get about 1.5 hours of lab time in. On weekends I almost
> never
> go anywhere, just alternate between lab work and taking Netflix + food
> breaks.
>
> I've been doing this for about 3 months now, with another 6 months of
> various
> other schedules before that, and I'm starting to have more and more
> trouble
> focusing, and I'm losing my patience more as well. Of course I'm becoming
> more and more fun for my wife to deal with on the side.
>
> Does anyone have any type of advice or schedule that worked for them? I
> don't
> suppose it helps that I'm normally really busy at work too, so I can't
> study
> there, or take time to play video games like some sysadmin types seem to
> have
> time for. At this point I'm really having trouble just finishing the last
> two
> tasks in my current lab on account of wanting to take a nosedive off my
> balcony. I'm thinking a week off might do wonders, as I have a bootcamp
> scheduled for March 17th, but I hate to lose the time (May 20th lab date).
>
> With a few exceptions, secrecy is deeply incompatible with democracy and
> with
> science.
> --Carl Sagan
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