From: sheherezada@gmail.com
Date: Thu Feb 28 2008 - 15:36:45 ARST
Tony,
I think you are right, but in some countries Cisco itself distorts the
market. Have you heard of the unique Cisco concept named "country
grouping"? Say, put together three Eastern European countries and let
partners claim Gold status for each of them, even if they have zero
CCIEs in particular country, just because they happen to count up to
four in the other two altogether.
Mihai
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Tony Schaffran (GS)
<groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
> I am speaking to all CCIE's.
>
> This practice is simply unethical and serves to only bring down the value of
> being a CCIE.
>
> If a company can just buy a number at a discount rate, then why would any
> company employ a CCIE at a premium rate?
>
> Think about it.
>
>
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> From: Tony Varriale [mailto:tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:37 AM
> To: 'Tony Schaffran (GS)'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: Unassigned CCIE query.
>
>
> I'm not sure which "a CCIE" you are speaking to. But, not only does Cisco
> allow it, it happens.
>
> If you want something to worry about, check out Mr. Reese and his "don't pay
> for licenses but Cisco should support the 3rd party market gear" mantra.
> That has way more wide spread impact on the community and economy.
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Tony
> Schaffran (GS)
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:58 PM
> To: 'Tony Varriale'; 'Darren Johnson'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: Unassigned CCIE query.
>
> This topic touches on basic ethics and I would hope a CCIE would have a
> higher standard.
>
> Is it right for a company to just buy a CCIE number to get the partner
> discounts and deceive their clients by claiming to be a gold partner or such
> without really having the resources on hand?
>
> To me, this just seems fundamentally wrong.
>
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Tony
> Varriale
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:48 AM
> To: 'Darren Johnson'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: Unassigned CCIE query.
>
> Yes it is. I would recommend not using that service you listed. You can
> easily find someone to take it if you are in a major metro area by asking
> around and possible even from your local Cisco office.
>
> Normal rates are $2-3k/month with a 12 month contract.
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Darren Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:41 AM
> To: 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: Unassigned CCIE query.
>
> Hey all. As per my post last week, I passed the lab and now have an
> unassigned CCIE number (I paid for study and lab myself). I'm now in a
> position where I'm weighing up my options. Is it possible to 'rent' out my
> CCIE number to a company, whilst still remaining employed by my present
> employer? I have heard of rentacert.com but people seemed skeptical of it.
>
> Let me stress, I DO NOT WANT TO VIOLATE ANY CISCO POLICIES and if renting
> out a cert is doing so, I WILL NOT DO IT. However, if it is possible/legal
> and people out there do it, can they kindly explain how it works. I want to
> get as much value out of my cert as possible.
>
> Thanks for ANY advice
>
> Darren
> #20078
>
>
>
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