From: Josh (shmokin@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Feb 27 2008 - 15:41:35 ARST
Thanks for the advice Gary! Slowly but surely, but it will be done!
Josh
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:56 PM, Gary Duncanson <
gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Your background is similar to mine and with family commitments I haven't
> been able to put is as many hours as I would like in a short period of
> time.
> Keep plugging away. Your elapsed time may be longer than other candidates
> to
> cover the material, just make sure you get enough practice hours in and
> you
> should be fine.
>
> HTH
> Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Josh" <shmokin@gmail.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:43 AM
> Subject: CCIE Candidates
>
>
> > Hello fellow CCIE candidates,
> >
> > I want to put in a few words (both good & bad) about my recent
> experience
> > in
> > a boot camp by Narbik. I've known Narbik now for about 10 years now. I
> > began CCNA with him as my instructor back in 1999. I did CCNP with him
> as
> > well, all but the last class (CIT) which was taught by his partner at
> the
> > time Mr. Khawar Butts. I got my CCNP in 2001. I was in his first CCIE
> > boot
> > camp back in 2002 before he was even a CCIE. I took a break after 2002
> > and
> > started to get back on the CCIE pursuit last April when I attended his
> > bootcamp for the first time. This past week is the 2nd time I have
> done
> > his bootcamp. Here is why I have stuck with Narbik:
> >
> > 1. Narbiks lectures: No Ferris Bueller style lectures here.
> Having
> > did 5 years of college in the past, I have had my share of boring,
> > mono-tone, bad accents, etc. I would have requested my money back if
> the
> > lectures were not worth it. Narbik's brings an energy that keeps you
> > awake,
> > attentive and interested. The jokes keep the material, which we all
> know
> > is
> > rather dry for the most part, very interesting. NO powerpoint style
> > presentations here either. One thing that really irks me is a "training
> > class" where all they do is put up a powerpoint presentation and read
> it.
> > I
> > know this seems to be the norm for most companies now, but how much do
> you
> > really learn? Anyway, I also like the fact that the lectures are to the
> > point. He doesn't fill them with stuff you really don't need to know.
> > You
> > really need to follow along, else you will miss a good portion of the
> > lecture. The way Narbik explains everything makes it look easy too. So
> > easy his grandma can do it. All the commands are done off the top of
> > head,
> > and every option is explained in detail as well as examples of when to
> > choose one versus another. He covers the topics end to end and leaves
> you
> > with a great understanding at the end.
> >
> > 2. Narbik's philosophy: Teach you way above and beyond the
> > requirements to just pass the test. This has been Narbik's belief since
> I
> > first met him. I totally agree with this thinking. It is better to
> learn
> > the whole enchilada, than just the bare minimum. He gives you the
> basics
> > (beginning at a CCNP level basics) and works up from there. He breaks
> > down
> > the course & lectures by protocol. He takes one protocol at a time. He
> > begins at times with the history, why certain commands are hidden, what
> > every possible command does, and when and where to apply them. He does
> > this with every protocol. The lectures included: RIP, EIGRP, Switching,
> > BGP, Multicast, QoS, and OSPF. I was nice to see he asked at the
> > beginning
> > of the class what our weaknesses were and focused a little extra for us
> on
> > those areas.
> >
> > 3. Narbik is oldschool: He takes care of you! For the money you
> > pay,
> > you can re-take the class (of course seat permitting) anytime you wish.
> > Also,
> > any updates to the materials are available to you as well. All you have
> > to
> > pay is the shipping. If you want to re-take the class, all you need to
> > pay
> > is the rack rental and cost of printing the materials. This to me shows
> > that he's not out to take your money. He does have a whole-hearted
> > concern
> > and desire for you to pass the test. The fact that he gives you his cel
> > phone number and is available for any questions as well via email makes
> > anyone in pursuit of this cert
> >
> > 4. Narbik's materials: The workbooks are very well written.
> Answers
> > are explained in detail as to why a solution was done a certain manner
> as
> > well the command to verify your config was done correctly. The workbook
> I
> > received the last class was 2000+ pages! BGP section alone was around
> 200
> > pages. They also came with revisions and added material on top of the
> > 2000+
> > workbook.
> >
> > There is one complaint I do have about Narbik. Yes believe it or not
> the
> > man is not perfect! Since back when I first met him, he had the problem
> > of
> > promising material and not delivering. When I took the class back in
> > April,
> > he advised he was working on 10 "super-labs" and would have those
> > completed
> > very soon and email those out to everyone in the class at that time.
> Here
> > we are almost 1 year later and I only have 1!!! Honestly, this doesn't
> > bother me that much, but it is a flaw. He has advised us that this
> > current
> > week he will complete those labs which will be included in the price of
> > the
> > bootcamp!
> >
> > I'd be happy to answer any other questions, here or unicast. A little
> bit
> > about myself: I started in the IT field in 1995. Started more focused
> on
> > LAN environment with Novell, WindowsNT, OS/2, etc. About 1999, I began
> my
> > Cisco studies, took a hiatus from 2002-2007, passed the written in June
> of
> > 2007, and slowly but surely working towards the CCIE lab. I currently
> > work
> > for a service provider called British Telecom (BT). We were known as
> > Infonet and were purchased by BT about 2 years ago . I was with another
> > service provider, Verizon, before then. Oh and maybe you guys are
> > wondering why I haven't taken the lab well I just had twin baby boys in
> > August, so I'm not able to study as much as I would like. Plus, you
> > wouldn't believe how many kids I have in addition to the twins. Family
> of
> > course comes before the CCIE, so its an interesting and great struggle I
> > have in front of me. But the more I study and practice labs, the more I
> > can
> > see this as being doable. Not easy at all, but doable.
> >
> > Wish everyone the very best in their studies. This is a great forum and
> > very very helpful to me and many others.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Josh Covarrubias
> >
>
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