RE: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt

From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Sun Feb 17 2008 - 01:03:20 ARST


Excuse me?

Are you a CCIE RS? Should I put "Multibillionaire@hotmail.com" as my email?

Climb off your ego and leave the IPEXPERT team alone. The money they make
from selling CCIE materials pales in comparison to the $$$ made by their
students who pass the lab and to go on to collectively earn many 10's of
millions of dollars.

Trash yourself. But don't trash Internetworkexpert, Ipexpert and their
generals who participate so kindly here to help us meeklings study to get
our stars too.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of CCIE
RS
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:02 AM
To: Dane Newman; Scott Morris
Cc: jatinder.p.singh@bt.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt

I will nolonger continue in this list dominated by IPEXPERT's hypocrisy. I
will unsubscribe. I am better on with my orignal thinking and I have good
confidence on myself.

> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:36:46 -0500> From: dane.newman@gmail.com> To:
swm@emanon.com> Subject: Re: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt> CC:
jatinder.p.singh@bt.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com> > Seriously people.
Everyone
has a right to there own views. I can> understand why the IPEXPERT folks are
jumping in here (they have to defend> there business and rightfully so from
what I seen its the Marjory of people> love them) but why jump down this
guys
throat? He has a right to think and> voice what he thinks. When selling a
product you will never have 100%> success rate with everyone. Why is it not
ok
that someone was unhappy with> there purchase even if the majority of people
where?> > Dane> > > On 2/13/08, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:> >> >
Congratulations on passing... Congratulations on getting the assistance> >
that you felt you needed there.> >> > But I cannot understand why you feel
the
need to dredge up the same false> > allegations that you have brought up on
numerous boards (including this> > one)> > before. On other boards, I have
sat
back twiddling my fingers and just> > thinking of all the things I probably
shouldn't say. But it goes on and> > on> > and on. You've posted to this
board
before. You've gotten responses on> > this board before. And then you
disappear.> >> > Other than pointing out the obvious inaccuracies regarding
your "lack of> > support" problems (check the archives for those who are
bored
and/or> > interested), and not mentioning the multiple personal phone calls
you got> > from instructors including one who gave you a phone number while
he
was at> > his mother's house so you had a local call in the UK...> >> > But
now we have something new here. The idea that anyone deliberately> >
withheld
information in order to prolong your studying? Cute. Definitely> > not
accurate, but cute!> >> > I'll give you credit, because in the past you
haven't responded to any> > offers to figure out what your perceived errors
or
support problems were.> > you simply post a message and run and hide. Or
perhaps ran to study. But> > now you're being inventive. I will give you
credit for that, at least you> > have made me laugh this morning.> >> > On
the
good note of things, as you go forward in your career I suppose we> > will
at
least be able to honestly say "It isn't IPexpert's fault". :)> >> > But I
really wish you wouldn't bother spouting lies. It simply belittles> > your
accomplishment here.> >> > Congratulations on passing.> >> >> > Scott
Morris,
CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,> > JNCIE-M> > #153,
JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER> > VP - Technical Training -
IPexpert, Inc.> > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor> >> > A Cisco Learning
Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!> >> > smorris@ipexpert.com> >> >> >> >
Telephone: +1.810.326.1444> > Fax: +1.810.454.0130> >
http://www.ipexpert.com>
>> >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
[mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> > jatinder.p.singh@bt.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:18 AM> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com> >
Subject: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt> >> > Dear All,> >> >
Yesterday, I passed my ccie voice lab at brussels on my first attempt.> >
Firstly I would like to thank all who helped me towards achieving this> >
goal.> > Special thanks to Tarun pahuja, and the CCBootcamp team (Brad) who
gave me> > personal support. Even though I did not buy any of their products
they> > gave> > their personal contact details and helped me when I needed
much help.> >> > I started this journey in early 2007, I cleared the written
after reading> > all the recommended cisco press books. Then my company
supported me in> > buying all the voice lab equipment which I setup in my
office.> > They also approved for me to go on a bootcamp, and I choose to go
to the> > IPexpert for 12 days.> >> > I bought all IPexpert products
including
COD and spent more then $10,000.> > However I found their bootcamp
demoralizing and disappointing . I was> > discouraged and told that no one
could pass the lab in the first attempt.> > I felt they were hiding things
from me so as to prolong my studies so as> > to> > keep me lingering on..
Their support was terrible, their workbook had> > errors, little
explanations
and I found myself spending hours being> > frustrated when things would not
work due to ommisions or things not> > explained properly. As a customer I
expect a teaching product to be> > accurate and explain things so as to
reinforce my technical> > abilities, but> > soon I discovered that their
strategy was to hide things, to make me it> > difficult instead and to
mentally discourage me so that I was guaranteed> > to> > fail on first
attempt.> >> > However I kept positive and determined to pass this exam and
made a> > challenge to pass it on my first attempt. I spent the next two
months off> > work and studying 15-18 hours per day and working on my
weaknesses.> > I consulted the cisco press books several times until I was
comfortable> > with> > every technology and spent hours on-hands practising
on
all the> > technologies.> >> > From my experience the lab was not as hard as
I
thought it would be. I got> > back from Brussels today and saw the good
news..
now its time for a break> > and some celebration.> >> > Thanks to you
all.....> >> > J P Singh> >> > CCIE (R & S , Voice)> >> >



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