From: Wes Stevens (wrsteve33-gssp@yahoo.com)
Date: Sat Feb 16 2008 - 13:08:59 ARST
You don't need any more marketing so it must fall into the last category in your case :)
----- Original Message ----
From: Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com>
To: Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>; Arun Kumar Arumuganainar <aarumuga@hotmail.com>; Cisco certification <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; Cisco certification <comserv@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:49:24 PM
Subject: RE: What is CCDE?
Progress? Evolution? Challenges?
Is the question any different for having more than one CCIE versus adding
your CCDE to the mix? Keep in mind that there's no "must have CCIE"
prerequisite for participating in the CCDE track. So this could simply be
seen as the logical extension of the CCDA/CCDP tracks. The CCIE Design was
an interesting, but not-fully-baked idea (genetic fluke that occurs before
full onset evolution?). ;)
ROI? If you are working for a company, not likely unless you meet some
requirement. If you are independent, then it's called marketing!
Otherwise, it's just called sadistic.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Darby Weaver
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:03 PM
To: Arun Kumar Arumuganainar; 'Cisco certification'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: Re: What is CCDE?
I'd suppose most everyone is asking the same question about the CCDE. I
still remember the last time the CCIE-Design cert was offered and never made
it as an offering to the people who passed that written exam.
The question I'd ask myself if I had already achieved one or even more
CCIE's is this:
Am I seeing the Return on Investment?
If not, another certification may not be the answer.
If yes, then carry on.
For myself, I think certs help, if nothing else they make me more confident
at my job.
However, I've seen a lot of people get the certs and get their feelings hurt
too.
Employers do not throw money at you just cause you got some more letters
behind your name.
Usually they have problems and they like to hire people who understand the
problems and can be expected to create solutions to those problems.
That's the bargain we are in the game for.
Maybe the first CCDE's might see some increased value, but I always wonder
in the back of my mind why out of the first CCIE's to make the 10 Year mark
only a few are still active CCIE's in the first place.
Yes - there will be lots of answers to this one, but I still wonder.
Congrats on having earned one or more CCIE's.
--- Arun Kumar Arumuganainar <aarumuga@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Any idea what it looks like ???
>
> I wanted to know more information about the lab on the cisco web site
> . May some one here can throw some light.
>
> Having finished couple of CCIEs I am wondering if it is worth looking
> at it? I am assuming (if it involves lab) it will involve significant
> amount of prep time and hence wanted to think twice before making a
> decision.
>
> Thanks and Regards
> arun
>
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