Re: AW: need t know about switches for r&s home lab

From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Sat Feb 16 2008 - 11:23:38 ARST


You can get some good deals on used gear running Cat OS now. The problem is
space. I have plenty of equipment these days and CatOS switches have a
tendency to make a lot of noise in the house. I need a basement like Mr
Morris :)

You're quite right that it can be very useful to know multiple vendors and
legacy platforms,. The latest 'tracks' do not cater for this even though the
'field' can provide plenty of exposure. As well as the latest in Cisco
switching over the years I have worked around a lot of Foundry, Cabletron
and CatOS switches, even 3Com Netbuilder and ACS as Im sure do many people
on the list.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darby Weaver" <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
To: "Fernando Carvalho" <fernando.cagica@t-online.de>; "'shady darwish'"
<engshad.shady@gmail.com>
Cc: "'Cisco certification'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:41 AM
Subject: Re: AW: need t know about switches for r&s home lab

> On that note...
>
> I had a funny idea lately, since I was feeling a
> little light on the CatOS side of things versus the
> IOS side of things and this was using my little fleet
> of Cisco 5505's with RSM and/or 4506's with WS-X4232's
> to work out the labs.
>
> Now you might wonder why? Well the CatOS is still
> alive on so many networks and guess what... I have to
> work on so many of those networks with the CatOS, so
> why not feel like I own every command.
>
> I'm taking the same concept to other vendor's switches
> as well and I just finished buying my third old
> Cabletron to do something similar with the Cabletron
> (Enterasys).
>
> As you can imagine, I get called to work on networks
> with Foundry, Nortel, 3Com, and even Extreme, and
> while I can usually figure it out, it would be helpful
> to be more "masterful" with other switching platforms
> as well.
>
> I might also add that while interviewing with Cisco
> once upon a time, I got the feeling that being
> knowledgeable (extremely) about the competition, that
> one would have a special place as an SE or FE.
>
> Remember Cisco likes taking over other vendor accounts
> and strongholds.
>
>
> While it is strictly better to have the latest and
> greatest switches, most of the tasks in
> Switching/Bridging have to do with the conceptual
> understanding of the technology; so...
>
> If it came down to buying 2 3560's versus buying 1
> 3560 and 2 3550's...
>
> You got it... Buy the triangle.
>
> And if you had to buy the triange with a 3550, 3560,
> and a 4000/5000/5500 switch with L3 capability, then
> you get an added bonus of now learning even more about
> Switching and maybe even helped yourself get the next
> job too.
>
> Recall a lot of older CCIE's got certified on CatOS
> and so they know it better and the newer CCIE's got
> certfied on the IOS... knowing both adds an Ace to
> your hand.
>
> But... there will be those who say differently.
>
> However, how many networks still have Cat6000/6500
> with CatOS?
>
> You got it. CatOS is a bit of a nice skill to have.
>
> Arguably one can figure it out. But wouldn't you
> rather be the expert? And they are dirt cheap.
>
>
>
> --- Fernando Carvalho <fernando.cagica@t-online.de>
> wrote:
>
>> The Cisco WS-C3560-24TS-S will do it IF YOU HAVE THE
>> CORRECT IMAGE FOR IT.
>> The hardware is Cisco WS-C3560-24TS. S or E means
>> the licence you are
>> buying, so if you have a possibility to get the
>> correct image (advanced ip
>> services) you can always load if on the switch.
>> The 3550 is different HW for SMI and EMI but the SMI
>> still accepts EMI
>> image, however i wouldn't buy because is being
>> replaced by the 3560 on the
>> LAB and also on IE labs.
>>
>> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: shady darwish [mailto:engshad.shady@gmail.com]
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Februar 2008 12:06
>> An: Fernando Carvalho
>> Cc: Cisco certification
>> Betreff: Re: need t know about switches for r&s home
>> lab
>>
>>
>> if ineed to do IE labs wich one from the below
>> switches will fit:-
>>
>> Cisco WS-C3560-24PS-S
>> Cisco WS-C3560-24TS-S
>> Cisco WS-C3550-24-EMI
>> Cisco WS-C3550-24-SMI
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Fernando Carvalho
>> <fernando.cagica@t-online.de> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Only the EMI or E is the same (states for enhanced
>> multilayer image)
>> > contains the advanced routing features you need
>> for the r&s exam.
>> >
>> > Note: the hardware for SMI supports the EMI image.
>> >
>> > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
>> > Von: nobody@groupstudy.com
>> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] Im Auftrag
>> > von shady darwish
>> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Februar 2008 00:47
>> > An: Cisco certification
>> > Betreff: need t know about switches for r&s home
>> lab
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 3560-24TS-E
>> > 3550-24 EMI
>> > why do i need TS-E AND EMI and can i replace them
>> with any other 3560
>> > and 3550 kinds .please do help me to understand
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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