From: Dane Newman (dane.newman@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Feb 14 2008 - 14:36:46 ARST
Seriously people. Everyone has a right to there own views. I can
understand why the IPEXPERT folks are jumping in here (they have to defend
there business and rightfully so from what I seen its the Marjory of people
love them) but why jump down this guys throat? He has a right to think and
voice what he thinks. When selling a product you will never have 100%
success rate with everyone. Why is it not ok that someone was unhappy with
there purchase even if the majority of people where?
Dane
On 2/13/08, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
>
> Congratulations on passing... Congratulations on getting the assistance
> that you felt you needed there.
>
> But I cannot understand why you feel the need to dredge up the same false
> allegations that you have brought up on numerous boards (including this
> one)
> before. On other boards, I have sat back twiddling my fingers and just
> thinking of all the things I probably shouldn't say. But it goes on and
> on
> and on. You've posted to this board before. You've gotten responses on
> this board before. And then you disappear.
>
> Other than pointing out the obvious inaccuracies regarding your "lack of
> support" problems (check the archives for those who are bored and/or
> interested), and not mentioning the multiple personal phone calls you got
> from instructors including one who gave you a phone number while he was at
> his mother's house so you had a local call in the UK...
>
> But now we have something new here. The idea that anyone deliberately
> withheld information in order to prolong your studying? Cute. Definitely
> not accurate, but cute!
>
> I'll give you credit, because in the past you haven't responded to any
> offers to figure out what your perceived errors or support problems were.
> you simply post a message and run and hide. Or perhaps ran to study. But
> now you're being inventive. I will give you credit for that, at least you
> have made me laugh this morning.
>
> On the good note of things, as you go forward in your career I suppose we
> will at least be able to honestly say "It isn't IPexpert's fault". :)
>
> But I really wish you wouldn't bother spouting lies. It simply belittles
> your accomplishment here.
>
> Congratulations on passing.
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> JNCIE-M
> #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
>
> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
>
> smorris@ipexpert.com
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> jatinder.p.singh@bt.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:18 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt
>
> Dear All,
>
> Yesterday, I passed my ccie voice lab at brussels on my first attempt.
> Firstly I would like to thank all who helped me towards achieving this
> goal.
> Special thanks to Tarun pahuja, and the CCBootcamp team (Brad) who gave me
> personal support. Even though I did not buy any of their products they
> gave
> their personal contact details and helped me when I needed much help.
>
> I started this journey in early 2007, I cleared the written after reading
> all the recommended cisco press books. Then my company supported me in
> buying all the voice lab equipment which I setup in my office.
> They also approved for me to go on a bootcamp, and I choose to go to the
> IPexpert for 12 days.
>
> I bought all IPexpert products including COD and spent more then $10,000.
> However I found their bootcamp demoralizing and disappointing . I was
> discouraged and told that no one could pass the lab in the first attempt.
> I felt they were hiding things from me so as to prolong my studies so as
> to
> keep me lingering on.. Their support was terrible, their workbook had
> errors, little explanations and I found myself spending hours being
> frustrated when things would not work due to ommisions or things not
> explained properly. As a customer I expect a teaching product to be
> accurate and explain things so as to reinforce my technical
> abilities, but
> soon I discovered that their strategy was to hide things, to make me it
> difficult instead and to mentally discourage me so that I was guaranteed
> to
> fail on first attempt.
>
> However I kept positive and determined to pass this exam and made a
> challenge to pass it on my first attempt. I spent the next two months off
> work and studying 15-18 hours per day and working on my weaknesses.
> I consulted the cisco press books several times until I was comfortable
> with
> every technology and spent hours on-hands practising on all the
> technologies.
>
> From my experience the lab was not as hard as I thought it would be. I got
> back from Brussels today and saw the good news.. now its time for a break
> and some celebration.
>
> Thanks to you all.....
>
> J P Singh
>
> CCIE (R & S , Voice)
>
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