RE: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt

From: jatinder.p.singh@bt.com
Date: Thu Feb 14 2008 - 09:27:07 ARST


I never said anything against SCOTT So please dont do any bullshit here.
If I was not happy from there Customer service or support. I have to
high light this to group study. Even Scott is not a voice instructor. I
am just telling the truth which happens with me. I am not worried wat
you people think. This is a small world of networking every one requires
help. I am not guru. I know Scott is GURU and always Guru for me. IF you
people who thinks I have done something wrong than why people send mail
directly to me who has the same experience. They dont have courge to
write here in this Groupstudy. I have courge and I have write.

I am not planning to do any other CCIE so I dont care. I am happy that I
told the truth to all people.

Best Regards
J P Singh | CCIE:- 13620 (R&S , Voice) | Specialist: Design, Development
& Consultancy Services | Solutions Engineering Group , BT Global
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From: Envuladu Tsaku [mailto:tenvuladu@yahoo.com]
Sent: 14 February 2008 10:32
To: M_A_Jones@Dell.com; swm@emanon.com; Dhameeja,JPS,Jatinder,AXSC52 R;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt

I agree with you mike.I dont know scott myself ,but no matter how lame
my mails are he always assists me.

M_A_Jones@Dell.com wrote:

        Yeah,

        I think alluding that "experts" like Scott are withholding info
from
        their students is completely oxymoronic.....lol

        If this were the case, why would he spend a great deal of his
day;
        answering questions from "CCIE wannabees" who havent purchased
his
        program...hmmmmmm ?!

        Michael Jones
        Network Engineer
        Global Network Operations
        Dell Inc. | Information Technology
        W. 512.723.3268 | C. 512.966.6908

        -----Original Message-----
        From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf Of
        Scott Morris
        Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:25 AM
        To: jatinder.p.singh@bt.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
        Subject: RE: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt

        Congratulations on passing... Congratulations on getting the
        assistance
        that you felt you needed there.

        But I cannot understand why you feel the need to dredge up the
same
        false allegations that you have brought up on numerous boards
(including
        this one) before. On other boards, I have sat back twiddling my
fingers
        and just thinking of all the things I probably shouldn't say.
But it
        goes on and on and on. You've posted to this board before.
You've
        gotten responses on this board before. And then you disappear.

        Other than pointing out the obvious inaccuracies regarding your
"lack of
        support" problems (check the archives for those who are bored
and/or
        interested), and not mentioning the multiple personal phone
calls you
        got from instructors including one who gave you a phone number
while he
        was at his mother's house so you had a local call in the UK...

        But now we have something new here. The idea that anyone
deliberately
        withheld information in order to prolong your studying? Cute.
        Definitely not accurate, but cute!

        I'll give you credit, because in the past you haven't responded
to any
        offers to figure out what your perceived errors or support
problems
        were.
        you simply post a message and run and hide. Or perhaps ran to
study.
        But now you're being inventive. I will give you credit for that,
at
        least you have made me laugh this morning.

        On the good note of things, as you go forward in your career I
suppose
        we
        will at least be able to honestly say "It isn't IPexpert's
fault". :)

        But I really wish you wouldn't bother spouting lies. It simply
        belittles your accomplishment here.

        Congratulations on passing.

        Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
#4713,
        JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
        CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
        VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
        IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor

        A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!

        smorris@ipexpert.com

        Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
        Fax: +1.810.454.0130
        http://www.ipexpert.com

        -----Original Message-----
        From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf Of
        jatinder.p.singh@bt.com
        Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:18 AM
        To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
        Subject: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt

        Dear All,

        Yesterday, I passed my ccie voice lab at brussels on my first
attempt.
        Firstly I would like to thank all who helped me towards
achieving this
        goal.
        Special thanks to Tarun pahuja, and the CCBootcamp team (Brad)
who gave
        me personal support. Even though I did not buy any of their
products
        they gave their personal contact details and helped me when I
needed
        much help.

        I started this journey in early 2007, I cleared the written
after
        reading all the recommended cisco press books. Then my company
supported
        me in buying all the voice lab equipment which I setup in my
office.
        They also approved for me to go on a bootcamp, and I choose to
go to the
        IPexpert for 12 days.

        I bought all IPexpert products including COD and spent more then
        $10,000.
        However I found their bootcamp demoralizing and disappointing .
I was
        discouraged and told that no one could pass the lab in the first
        attempt.
        I felt they were hiding things from me so as to prolong my
studies so as
        to keep me lingering on.. Their support was terrible, their
workbook had
        errors, little explanations and I found myself spending hours
being
        frustrated when things would not work due to ommisions or things
not
        explained properly. As a customer I expect a teaching product to
be
        accurate and explain things so as to reinforce my technical
abilities,
        but soon I discovered that their strategy was to hide things, to
make me
        it difficult instead and to mentally discourage me so that I was
        guaranteed to fail on first attempt.

        However I kept positive and determined to pass this exam and
made a
        challenge to pass it on my first attempt. I spent the next two
months
        off work and studying 15-18 hours per day and working on my
weaknesses.
        I consulted the cisco press books several times until I was
comfortable
        with every technology and spent hours on-hands practising on all
the
        technologies.

        From my experience the lab was not as hard as I thought it would
be. I
        got back from Brussels today and saw the good news.. now its
time for a
        break and some celebration.

        Thanks to you all.....

        J P Singh

        CCIE (R & S , Voice)



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