From: subodh.rawat@wipro.com
Date: Thu Feb 14 2008 - 06:05:45 ARST
Undoubtly...world is full of all types..
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Rik Guyler
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:19 AM
To: 'Scott Morris'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt
Well said Scott. It's hard to imagine somebody believing those comments
but I always take such things with a grain of salt. Your reputation
possibly above all others on this list speaks for itself and I think all
of us non-schizophrenic list members blow most of these rants off.
I apologize for not earlier reading the rest of his post where he seemed
to attack IPExpert at a personal level. I would have defiantly called
him out as would have most of us who greatly value your constant
contribution to the success of this list. The world is full of all
types...
Rik
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Morris
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:25 AM
To: jatinder.p.singh@bt.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt
Congratulations on passing... Congratulations on getting the
assistance
that you felt you needed there.
But I cannot understand why you feel the need to dredge up the same
false allegations that you have brought up on numerous boards (including
this one) before. On other boards, I have sat back twiddling my fingers
and just thinking of all the things I probably shouldn't say. But it
goes on and on and on. You've posted to this board before. You've
gotten responses on this board before. And then you disappear.
Other than pointing out the obvious inaccuracies regarding your "lack of
support" problems (check the archives for those who are bored and/or
interested), and not mentioning the multiple personal phone calls you
got from instructors including one who gave you a phone number while he
was at his mother's house so you had a local call in the UK...
But now we have something new here. The idea that anyone deliberately
withheld information in order to prolong your studying? Cute.
Definitely not accurate, but cute!
I'll give you credit, because in the past you haven't responded to any
offers to figure out what your perceived errors or support problems
were.
you simply post a message and run and hide. Or perhaps ran to study.
But now you're being inventive. I will give you credit for that, at
least you have made me laugh this morning.
On the good note of things, as you go forward in your career I suppose
we
will at least be able to honestly say "It isn't IPexpert's fault". :)
But I really wish you wouldn't bother spouting lies. It simply
belittles your accomplishment here.
Congratulations on passing.
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
http://www.ipexpert.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
jatinder.p.singh@bt.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:18 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt
Dear All,
Yesterday, I passed my ccie voice lab at brussels on my first attempt.
Firstly I would like to thank all who helped me towards achieving this
goal.
Special thanks to Tarun pahuja, and the CCBootcamp team (Brad) who gave
me personal support. Even though I did not buy any of their products
they gave their personal contact details and helped me when I needed
much help.
I started this journey in early 2007, I cleared the written after
reading all the recommended cisco press books. Then my company supported
me in buying all the voice lab equipment which I setup in my office.
They also approved for me to go on a bootcamp, and I choose to go to the
IPexpert for 12 days.
I bought all IPexpert products including COD and spent more then
$10,000.
However I found their bootcamp demoralizing and disappointing . I was
discouraged and told that no one could pass the lab in the first
attempt.
I felt they were hiding things from me so as to prolong my studies so as
to keep me lingering on.. Their support was terrible, their workbook had
errors, little explanations and I found myself spending hours being
frustrated when things would not work due to ommisions or things not
explained properly. As a customer I expect a teaching product to be
accurate and explain things so as to reinforce my technical abilities,
but soon I discovered that their strategy was to hide things, to make me
it difficult instead and to mentally discourage me so that I was
guaranteed to fail on first attempt.
However I kept positive and determined to pass this exam and made a
challenge to pass it on my first attempt. I spent the next two months
off work and studying 15-18 hours per day and working on my weaknesses.
I consulted the cisco press books several times until I was comfortable
with every technology and spent hours on-hands practising on all the
technologies.
From my experience the lab was not as hard as I thought it would be. I
got back from Brussels today and saw the good news.. now its time for a
break and some celebration.
Thanks to you all.....
J P Singh
CCIE (R & S , Voice)
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