From: CCIE RS (cciers@hotmail.co.uk)
Date: Thu Feb 14 2008 - 05:16:40 ARST
Congrats on passing.
JP could be right or abs wrong, we dont know. Its difficult to only blame him,
we are not in his shoes. He could be right too, may be IPexpert did something
wrong in the starting and later on after hammering them he got some relief.
NOBODY IS PERFECT, BEING PERFECT IS MADNESS.
DONT FORGET, PASSING THE CCIE LAB STARTS FROM 80%, NOT 100%
Regards,
MARK
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:39:56 -0800> From: hoogen82@gmail.com> To:
jatinder.p.singh@bt.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: Re: Finally Pass
Voice Lab on first attempt> CC: swm@emanon.com> > Congratulations!! on your
achievement. But I still think you needn't go> through that complaining of
yours. If you felt something was bad, you have> had it mentioned once. Please
don't repeat it. You passed now, and I am sure> you shouldn't be having any
ill feeling to anyone now.> > I still owe my first CCIE to people like Brian's
and Scott and they never> would withheld any information from you, they just
try to help out the> maximum they can.> > Cheers,> Hoogen> > > On 2/13/08,
Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:> >> > Congratulations on passing...
Congratulations on getting the assistance> > that you felt you needed there.>
>> > But I cannot understand why you feel the need to dredge up the same
false> > allegations that you have brought up on numerous boards (including
this> > one)> > before. On other boards, I have sat back twiddling my fingers
and just> > thinking of all the things I probably shouldn't say. But it goes
on and> > on> > and on. You've posted to this board before. You've gotten
responses on> > this board before. And then you disappear.> >> > Other than
pointing out the obvious inaccuracies regarding your "lack of> > support"
problems (check the archives for those who are bored and/or> > interested),
and not mentioning the multiple personal phone calls you got> > from
instructors including one who gave you a phone number while he was at> > his
mother's house so you had a local call in the UK...> >> > But now we have
something new here. The idea that anyone deliberately> > withheld information
in order to prolong your studying? Cute. Definitely> > not accurate, but
cute!> >> > I'll give you credit, because in the past you haven't responded to
any> > offers to figure out what your perceived errors or support problems
were.> > you simply post a message and run and hide. Or perhaps ran to study.
But> > now you're being inventive. I will give you credit for that, at least
you> > have made me laugh this morning.> >> > On the good note of things, as
you go forward in your career I suppose we> > will at least be able to
honestly say "It isn't IPexpert's fault". :)> >> > But I really wish you
wouldn't bother spouting lies. It simply belittles> > your accomplishment
here.> >> > Congratulations on passing.> >> >> > Scott Morris, CCIE4
(R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,> > JNCIE-M> > #153, JNCIS-ER,
CISSP, et al.> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER> > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert,
Inc.> > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor> >> > A Cisco Learning Partner - We
Accept Learning Credits!> >> > smorris@ipexpert.com> >> >> >> > Telephone:
+1.810.326.1444> > Fax: +1.810.454.0130> > http://www.ipexpert.com> >> >> >>
>> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
[mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> > jatinder.p.singh@bt.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:18 AM> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com> >
Subject: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt> >> > Dear All,> >> >
Yesterday, I passed my ccie voice lab at brussels on my first attempt.> >
Firstly I would like to thank all who helped me towards achieving this> >
goal.> > Special thanks to Tarun pahuja, and the CCBootcamp team (Brad) who
gave me> > personal support. Even though I did not buy any of their products
they> > gave> > their personal contact details and helped me when I needed
much help.> >> > I started this journey in early 2007, I cleared the written
after reading> > all the recommended cisco press books. Then my company
supported me in> > buying all the voice lab equipment which I setup in my
office.> > They also approved for me to go on a bootcamp, and I choose to go
to the> > IPexpert for 12 days.> >> > I bought all IPexpert products including
COD and spent more then $10,000.> > However I found their bootcamp
demoralizing and disappointing . I was> > discouraged and told that no one
could pass the lab in the first attempt.> > I felt they were hiding things
from me so as to prolong my studies so as> > to> > keep me lingering on..
Their support was terrible, their workbook had> > errors, little explanations
and I found myself spending hours being> > frustrated when things would not
work due to ommisions or things not> > explained properly. As a customer I
expect a teaching product to be> > accurate and explain things so as to
reinforce my technical> > abilities, but> > soon I discovered that their
strategy was to hide things, to make me it> > difficult instead and to
mentally discourage me so that I was guaranteed> > to> > fail on first
attempt.> >> > However I kept positive and determined to pass this exam and
made a> > challenge to pass it on my first attempt. I spent the next two
months off> > work and studying 15-18 hours per day and working on my
weaknesses.> > I consulted the cisco press books several times until I was
comfortable> > with> > every technology and spent hours on-hands practising on
all the> > technologies.> >> > From my experience the lab was not as hard as I
thought it would be. I got> > back from Brussels today and saw the good news..
now its time for a break> > and some celebration.> >> > Thanks to you
all.....> >> > J P Singh> >> > CCIE (R & S , Voice)> >> >
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