From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Jan 27 2008 - 23:08:30 ARST
Truthfully, I was thinking of working on more CCIE
level certs after I completed the IE...
But then it does occur to me, that the time (never
mind the money) would be better spent earning a little
extra cash and working towards my own retirement
versus a stockholder somewhere...
I kind of miss my $10,000.00 per 1-2 week (nights and
weekends) juicy little projects setting up a quick
network with a file, sql-based application, backups,
mail, dns, proxy, firewall and maybe a SUS//WUS server
with a 10-20 workststations attached.
10 of these a year... versus 0 per year and paying
about $10-20k seeking higher quals...
Every once in a while ROI comes to mind and one might
want to manage a career like a business.
--- Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> A lot of CCIE's and non CCIE's already do a good
> deal of design work. While
> Im keeping an open mind of the CCDE one of the
> problems will be finding time
> to do yet another track when there is so much paid
> work to be done.
>
> Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "darth router" <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
> To: <subodh.rawat@wipro.com>
> Cc: <smorris@ipexpert.com>; <dane.newman@gmail.com>;
> <branto@branto.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 6:44 AM
> Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live
>
>
> > Kinda funky stuff. You really need to be a design
> guy to be a CCIE these
> > days anyway. Everyone expects everything of
> > you as an IE. Might as well kill another year or
> two and knock out the
> > DE. That or be driven to suicide over all the
> studying. I sure as hell
> > hope that DEs
> > get paid a lot more than IEs, or why even bother
> with it.
> >
> > DR
> >
> > On 1/23/08, subodh.rawat@wipro.com
> <subodh.rawat@wipro.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> May be CCIE will be proved to be more powerful
> than CCDE as CCDE is
> >> composition of everything while CCIE is
> specialization in particular
> >> field.
> >>
> >> ~Subodh
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Scott Morris
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:20 PM
> >> To: 'Dane Newman'; 'Brant I. Stevens'
> >> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: CCDE Goes Live
> >>
> >> What's the potential for devalue? CCIE is an
> implementation or "doing"
> >> exam. CCDE is a design exam.
> >>
> >> Now, if an employer WANTS to have someone with a
> CCIE + CCDE, how is
> >> that a
> >> devalue? That is just multiple areas of
> expertise.
> >>
> >> Not everyone who can do implementation can design
> a large network.
> >> Likewise, not everyone who can design can
> actually configure the
> >> specifics.
> >>
> >> Think of it as different tracks, or complimentary
> certs. It certainly
> >> isn't a devaluation!
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott Morris, CCIE4
> (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> >> JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> >> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
> >> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> >> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> >>
> >> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning
> Credits!
> >>
> >> smorris@ipexpert.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
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> >> http://www.ipexpert.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Dane Newman
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:13 PM
> >> To: Brant I. Stevens
> >> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live
> >>
> >> So Is the CCDE going to devalue the CCIE at all?
> Will cisco require 4
> >> CCIE's/CCDE now?
> >>
> >> doing a design lab seems alittle less scary no?
> >>
> >> Dane
> >>
> >> On Jan 22, 2008 9:21 AM, Brant I. Stevens
> <branto@branto.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Just thought I'd share...
> >> >
> >> > http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080122/0350542.html
> >> >
> >> >
>
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