From: darth router (darklordrouter@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jan 27 2008 - 17:31:02 ARST
voice,
just check dice and monster.com You can get away with being just a voice guy
in a big gold partner and doing callmanager. I keep running accross voice
pros who can't configure QOS, or Mulitcast, or deal with
routing/infrastructure
issues. If you work in a smaller company, chances are you will do it
all. But beware, if you get really good with callmangler, chances are
your employer is going to put you on JUST voice jobs until you have
heart attack. Personally, my goal is to support the infrastructure for
voice, but not touch callmanager. Let the server guys have it!
On 1/25/08, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>
> I'm in your boat Dane. I also recently passed the r&s lab, and want to get
> another one done asap.
>
> I would only offer this; I think the voice track is HEAVILY user facing,
> especially if you are a consultant. A phone on someone's desk is a very
> very
> personal, heavily used tool at most companies. You will spend a lot of
> time
> helping users reset their voice mail passwords, modifying soft keys, etc.
> forget any special documentation you could create to help them, especially
> big shots, they will want personal "code blue" service. I really don't
> want
> to get my voice ccie and spend 10 years walking from desk to desk, the
> Monday after a voip deployment and helping people get accustomed to their
> new phones, video phones, and soft phones (I would rather work at kfc).
>
> That being said, I would say if you are just planning to work as a wage
> slave (read IRS form 1040) at a big company or Cisco parter that designs,
> deploys voice solutions, its possible there will be people on your team
> more
> junior to you to help do the user facing stuff. But be warned, I have met
> several voice ccie's who had the voice end of the job, etc. where I have
> worked. They definitely faced a lot of users. So I call this the "only
> user
> facing ccie". Now with security it's all done stealth in the back room,
> and
> no one needs to be walked through setting their "ASA FW PASSWORD", etc.
>
> I'm doing both, because I want 2 more stars on my uniform, but that's me.
> As far as financial outlook, that impossible for anyone to say. You can
> have
> neither and can make more than two people having one each, or you can make
> only a paltry $100k (or less) having both. Money is in the hand of the
> entrepreneur, all else get money from his hands, when he sees fit.
>
> -Joe
> #19366
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Dane
> Newman
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:45 PM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: So which is there more of a market demand for?
>
> So in your view which is in demand more in the job market? CCIE voice or
> CCIE Security?
>
> I am sure I am going to try my hand at both someday but for the time being
> Im trying to figure out which one will be the best to start out with?
>
> Dane
>
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