From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Sat Jan 26 2008 - 11:41:21 ARST
There were several people in the room with numbers below 6000.
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE-M
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-----Original Message-----
From: Colin McNamara [mailto:colin@2cups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:23 AM
To: Scott Morris
Cc: 'Lala Lander'; sheherezada@gmail.com; 'Luan Nguyen';
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCDE
I think another important thing to point out is that this was not an open
beta. In the beta meeting I had to look hard to find a CCIE number below
6000. There were some big guns in that room, and those are the people that
set the curve for the beta. If you passed the CCDE written, you earned it.
-- Colin McNamara (858)208-8105 CCIE #18233,RHCE,GCIH http://www.colinmcnamara.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/colinmcnamara"The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little longer"
On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 08:55 -0500, Scott Morris wrote: > heheheeh... There are lots of statistics and reasons involved in that > though... So it's not quite that black/white. :) > > Still thinking on that, remember that betas typically involve a LOT > more questions. So if you took an exam with 200 questions and > answered 58% of them correctly (116 questions) that's still better > then the person who only had a 100 question exam and answered 80 of them correctly. > > Not all questions make it out of the beta into the real thing either. > > But the passing score on the CCDE beta was 70%. I have no idea how > that translated into the real exam (obviously haven't taken that) but > I'd guess that it's fairly close. > > So the cut score on the beta really has lots of analysis behind it, > not just being a "ridiculously low" score to make people feel better. > :) > > HTH, > > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, > JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al. > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc. > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor > > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits! > > smorris@ipexpert.com > > > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > Fax: +1.810.454.0130 > http://www.ipexpert.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf > Of Lala Lander > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:30 PM > To: sheherezada@gmail.com > Cc: Luan Nguyen; ccielab@groupstudy.com > Subject: Re: CCDE > > The only issue I have with betas is passing scores are ridiculously > low. if I remember correctly CCIE v2.0 passing score was 52% and I > passed it with 58%. So it is like I dont have to read too much or read > in depth and I can still pass the beta. I was not happy that I got > only 58% but it was good enough for Cisco. > > So I dont know.....i'll rather don't cheat and deal with the written > exam where passing score is 70 or 80%, read as much as I can and pass the test. > > my 2 cents > > Shahid > > On Jan 23, 2008 1:01 AM, <sheherezada@gmail.com> wrote: > > > That' why I took the beta :) I don't trust any written exam that > > can be "replayed". > > > > Mihai > > > > On Jan 22, 2008 4:46 PM, Luan Nguyen <luan.m.nguyen@gmail.com> wrote: > > > FYI... > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/expert_design_introduction_ccde. > > html > > > > > > -lmn > > > > > > Let's all go take the written before dumb sites yah? See if we > > > are for > > real > > > or just talk :) > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > __ ___ Subscription information may be found at: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > __ _ Subscription information may be found at: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _ Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _ Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
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