From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Wed Jan 23 2008 - 23:47:20 ARST
The 4 people who passed the lab do. I passed the written for it, but it
wasn't intentionally. (No, I don't deliberately try to fail, they gave me
the wrong free exam at Networkers one year and I didn't pay any attention to
it until the score report said "Congratulations on passing the CCIE Design
Qualification Exam")
:)
The CCIE-Design was (pun intended) a poorly designed track, and it was still
an implementation-based exam with a bunch of equipment. Interesting idea,
but hard to manage. The CCDE will not be hands-on in the sense of sitting
at a router, but more in line with the skillsets required of good network
designers!
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE-M
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From: Hyunseog Ryu [mailto:r.hyunseog@ieee.org]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:34 PM
To: smorris@ipexpert.com
Cc: 'Dane Newman'; 'Brant I. Stevens'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live
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If I remember correctly, they used to have CCIE - DESIGN a couple of years
ago.
What's the difference between CCIE-DESIGN and CCDE ?
I assume that some people still have CCIE-DESIGN in active status?
Hyun
Scott Morris wrote:
| According to all the information, there is going to be one track and
| one track only. The idea about a design "expert" is that they should
| not be relegated to only the Voice, Security, Enterprise or SP
infrastructures.
| That will make the certification that much more interesting and difficult!
|
| but you're correct, there will likely be other business-related
concepts in
| there as well since they all do (or certainly SHOULD) play a role in
network
| design.
|
| Scott
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
| Of Hyunseog Ryu
| Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:40 AM
| To: Dane Newman
| Cc: Brant I. Stevens; ccielab@groupstudy.com
| Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live
|
| So are they planning to do something like CCDE-RS, CCDE-SP,
| CCDE-Voice, CCDE-Security in the future ?
| I'm wondering how they will measure the score for Design.
| It may come from different business model, and even with same business
| model, it can be very different from organization to organization
based on a
| lot of resource availabilities - budget, engineering resource, human
| resource, and political background, etc... -.
|
| Hyun
|
|
| Dane Newman wrote:
| | So Is the CCDE going to devalue the CCIE at all? Will cisco require
| | 4 CCIE's/CCDE now?
| |
| | doing a design lab seems alittle less scary no?
| |
| | Dane
| |
| | On Jan 22, 2008 9:21 AM, Brant I. Stevens <branto@branto.com> wrote:
| |
| |> Just thought I'd share...
| |>
| |> http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080122/0350542.html
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