Re: Failed on 6 Jan,Dubai, I don't know why even now I have no

From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Tue Jan 22 2008 - 06:40:31 ARST


I use debugs all the time.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darby Weaver" <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
To: "Cielieska Nathan" <ncielieska@gmail.com>; "Gary Duncanson"
<gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; "Darren Johnson" <dazza_johnson@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: Failed on 6 Jan,Dubai, I don't know why even now I have no
doubt about my answers.

> Ever consider turning on a debug for whatever it is
> you are wanting to do...
>
> Does not really matter what it is really.
>
> Then apply a configuration and just watch the debugs
> go by. Log em if you like.
>
> Then...
>
> Apply a given a filter and watch what happens.
>
> And each change thereafter...
>
> Makes for a more interesting study session.
>
> After a while things will get easier.
>
>
> --- Cielieska Nathan <ncielieska@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Note
>>
>> router rip
>> passive-inteface s1/0
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nate
>> On Jan 21, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Gary Duncanson wrote:
>>
>> > Nate,
>> >
>> > Seems ok for inbound updates on s1/0, but for int
>> s1/0 wont the
>> > updates still be sent out?
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cielieska
>> Nathan"
>> > <ncielieska@gmail.com>
>> > To: "Gary Duncanson"
>> <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>
>> > Cc: "Darren Johnson" <dazza_johnson@yahoo.co.uk>;
>>
>> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:11 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Failed on 6 Jan,Dubai, I don't know
>> why even now I
>> > have no doubt about my answers.
>> >
>> >
>> >> hows about
>> >>
>> >> router rip
>> >> passive-interface s1/0
>> >>
>> >> access-list 101 deny udp 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 eq 520
>> >> access-list 101 permit ip any any
>> >>
>> >> int s1/0
>> >> ip access-group 101 in
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Nate
>> >>
>> >> On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:49 AM, Gary Duncanson
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Offset-list can poison the route but will it
>> actually prevent it
>> >>> being received by the interface?
>> >>>
>> >>> Requirement - 'RIP routes neither sent or
>> received on the interface'
>> >>>
>> >>> Gary
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren
>> Johnson"
>> >>> <dazza_johnson@yahoo.co.uk>
>> >>> To: "'Gary Duncanson'"
>> <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>; "'Farhan
>> >>> Anwar'" <farhan.anwar@gmail.com>
>> >>> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> >>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 1:19 PM
>> >>> Subject: RE: Failed on 6 Jan,Dubai, I don't know
>> why even now I
>> >>> have no doubt about my answers.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Also, setting the AD to 255, or using an
>> offset-list to make
>> >>>> the route
>> >>>> unreachable.....
>> >>>>
>> >>>> :-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It would be so much easier if RIP formed adj
>> like EIGRP and
>> >>>> OSPF ;-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dazzler
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
>> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>> >>>> Behalf Of Gary
>> >>>> Duncanson
>> >>>> Sent: 19 January 2008 16:23
>> >>>> To: Farhan Anwar
>> >>>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> >>>> Subject: Re: Failed on 6 Jan,Dubai, I don't
>> know why even now I
>> >>>> have no
>> >>>> doubt about my answers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Will that block outbound or inbound depending
>> on access-group
>> >>>> in or out?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I take it you mean distribute list with gateway
>> statement plus
>> >>>> extended acl
>> >>>> ?
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: Farhan Anwar
>> >>>> To: Gary Duncanson
>> >>>> Cc: Felix Nkansah ; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:55 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: Failed on 6 Jan,Dubai, I don't
>> know why even now
>> >>>> I have no
>> >>>> doubt about my answers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Distribute list with gateway statement +
>> prefix-list denying
>> >>>> that gateway
>> >>>> and permitting others
>> >>>> or
>> >>>> an extended acl on interface having deny
>> statement for rip.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Jan 18, 2008 12:45 PM, Gary Duncanson
>> >>>> <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That's a good one Felix. What would be a
>> decent alternative
>> >>>> do you think
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> passive-interface? Distribute-list?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "Felix Nkansah"
>> <felixnkansah@gmail.com>
>> >>>> To: "sirus MOGHADASIAN"
>> <cyrus.mgh@gmail.com>
>> >>>> Cc: "groupstudy" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:36 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: Failed on 6 Jan,Dubai, I don't
>> know why even now
>> >>>> I have no
>> >>>> doubt about my answers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > HI sirus,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > It's difficult to understand why we failed
>> or got low
>> >>>> marks in some
>> >>>> > sections. It requires a sincere
>> examination of one's self
>> >>>> to admit a
>> >>>> > failure.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > A simple task may not be as simple as it
>> seems. If it's
>> >>>> that simple,
>> >>>> why
>> >>>> > are
>> >>>> > you tested on it in the difficult &
>> coveted CCIE lab. Besides,
>> >>>> remember
>> >>>> > that
>> >>>> > the the ccie lab is an 'ALL OR NOTHING
>> GAME.'
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > No partial credits. Marks are awarded for
>> perfect answers
>> >>>> only (ones
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> > meet ALL requirements without breaking ANY
>> requirement).
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > As an example, let's assume a candidate
>> had a task like below:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > TASK 3.X Configure RIP on R1 for the
>> specified
>> >>>> interfacees. Ensure
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> > RIP
>> >>>> > routes are neither sent nor received on
>> interface S1/0.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > This question is simple, but it only seems
>> so. So we provide a
>> >>>> solution
>> >>>> > like
>> >>>> > below:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > R1
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > router rip
>> >>>> > ver 2
>> >>>> > no auto
>> >>>> > network x.x.x.x
>> >>>> > network y.y.y.y
>> >>>> > passive-interface s1/0
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > A candidate may assume the
>> 'passive-interface' command
>> >>>> would meet the
>> >>>> > second
>> >>>> > requirement.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > WRONG.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Passive-interface only prevents SENDING of
>> routes, and not
>> >>>> RECEIVING
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> > routes. So the candidate scores a 0 for
>> not meeting ALL
>> >>>> requirements
>> >>>> for
>> >>>> > this 'simple' task. He is perplexed and
>> doubts his scores.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Please dont give up. Reexamine yourself
>> sincerely again.
>> >>>> Take the
>> >>>> > suggestions provided by the other experts,
>> and you shall
>> >>>> surely come
>> >>>> home
>> >>>> > after your next lab with a number.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Regards,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Felix
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>>
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