From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Wed Jan 16 2008 - 14:33:25 ARST
What about the differences between DEC and IBM bridging and the good old Lou
Rossi paper? Is this all filtering into 802.1D somehow or was that a TR
bridging thing that was nothing to do with STP? Seems a long time ago now.
There is MISTP (802.1s) as well or is that MST?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
To: "'Salau, Yemi'" <yemi.salau@siemens.com>; "'Calvino Borcelli'"
<cal_borci@hotmail.com>; "'Joseph Brunner'" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>;
<jerry.du@accenture.com>; <m_a_jones@dell.com>;
<gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:22 PM
Subject: RE: Google Technical Interview
> One one side, it's a collection of stupid trivia. On the other side, it's
> knowledge of history which sometimes explains how we got where we are at
> and
> can help predict where we may go next! it's all about the experience
> level!
>
> CSTP or CST is Common Spanning Tree. Historically:
>
> 802.1D which was one spanning tree for any/all networks came first.
> PVST was created next by Cisco for doing separate STP per VLAN.
> 802.1Q came next as a trunking algorithm, but here is where CST was put in
> the spec just to piss Cisco off.
> PVST+ was the workaround to this by simply changing the multicast MAC
> address used to "sorta tunnel" STP frames in separate VLANs.
> MST came next where the industry finally (partially) agreed with multiple
> instances of spanning tree, and RSTP came along with it.
> Rapid-PVST came last where Cisco said "that's cool!"
>
> HTH,
>
> Scott
>
> PS. Most people wouldn't know this unless they really had to teach it or
> explain it to people on a routine basis!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Salau, Yemi [mailto:yemi.salau@siemens.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:47 AM
> To: Salau, Yemi; Calvino Borcelli; swm@emanon.com; Joseph Brunner;
> jerry.du@accenture.com; m_a_jones@dell.com; gary.duncanson@googlemail.com
> Subject: RE: Google Technical Interview
>
> Ok, out of curiosity, I know of STP evolution from STP>MSTP>RSTP with
> Cisco's version of PVSTP>PVSTP+
>
> Which RFC defines CSTP?
>
> Also, I googled CSTP and the first thing that came up is CSTP - Certified
> Security Testing Professional.
>
> If this is correct, then it's pathetic that someone's years of career can
> be
> judged by these moronautic interviewers! Another reason why people set up
> their own business, I think. Phew!
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Yemi Salau
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Salau, Yemi
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:51 AM
> To: 'Calvino Borcelli'; swm@emanon.com; 'Joseph Brunner';
> jerry.du@accenture.com; m_a_jones@dell.com; gary.duncanson@googlemail.com
> Subject: RE: Google Technical Interview
>
> Doh!
>
> I hate such interviews, it's not as if I want to be a researcher in one of
> the MIT labs, is it?
>
> A Customer wouldn't ask me what the 2 most unused flags in TCP is, will
> they?
>
> Ok, maybe google needs lab engineers, or researchers or something, because
> I
> don't get? As a specialist for few years now, all that is required of me
> is
> to design according to customer's specification and provide 3rd line
> support
> when things are going A-wire!
>
> What do you guys think?
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Yemi Salau
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Calvino Borcelli
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:08 AM
> To: swm@emanon.com; 'Joseph Brunner'; jerry.du@accenture.com;
> m_a_jones@dell.com; gary.duncanson@googlemail.com
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Google Technical Interview
>
> Hello All,
>
> I was surprised to see the thread resurrected again. I did take the
> interview a couple of weeks ago. Didnt get through although i felt I did
> well.
> Like most
> of you had mentioned, there was a hint that the package wouldnt be all
> that
> great.
>
> Although there was network trivia like the working of a traceroute.
> There was
> a few pretty in depth questions, like what are the two most unused flags
> in
> TCP. They also asked about CSPF about which i had no idea.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Calvino
>
>
>
>> From: swm@emanon.com> To: joe@affirmedsystems.com;
> jerry.du@accenture.com;
> M_A_Jones@Dell.com; gary.duncanson@googlemail.com; cal_borci@hotmail.com>
> CC:
> ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE: Google Technical Interview> Date:
> Mon, 14
> Jan 2008 22:59:24 -0500> > And how well did that answer go over? :) > >
> -----Original Message-----> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> Joseph Brunner> Sent:
> Sunday,
> January 13, 2008 11:53 PM> To: jerry.du@accenture.com;
> M_A_Jones@Dell.com;>
> gary.duncanson@googlemail.com; cal_borci@hotmail.com> Cc:
> ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE: Google Technical Interview> > Q.
> What
> algorithm, invented on July 15, 1989 is responsible for building> routing
> tables using a packet-by-packet coupling of transitive data in a>
> non-statistical averaged arbitrary table?> > My answer to the googleista?>
> >
> Go trip on your Birkenstocks on the way to the bathroom to apply the
> salve> to
> your after "holiday party" and six martinis acquired parasite from some>
> nasty hippy chick who slept with your boss the day before the foosball>
> tournament during the yodeling contest. You can shove your corporate
> culture> down the throat of some half-wit college grad who has never felt
> the whirl> of a Patek Philippe on his wrist winding up or the Purr of a
> Porsche finding> a gear at 6,000rpms. I don't read the doc cd habitually
> so
> I can play> foosball with lamer's who write useless apps like g-shopping
> or
> whatever the> hell you're preaching to wall street these days. Oh, and
> about
> your share> price, the Titanic was once the fastest ship on the north
> Atlantic, and> American's once bought goods made here until China built
> things cheaper and> the jobs left for good... Sell now, while you're still
> up on your $600> strike price.> > > -----Original Message-----> From:
> nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of>
> jerry.du@accenture.com>
> Sent:
> Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:38 AM> To: M_A_Jones@Dell.com;
> gary.duncanson@googlemail.com; cal_borci@hotmail.com> Cc:
> ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE: Google Technical Interview> > What I
> heard was Google's interview is very nice. do not know how the pays> but
> many IT guys in China are aim this company because it's reputation.> > > >
> >
>>
> -----Original Message-----> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> M_A_Jones@Dell.com> Sent:
> Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:40 AM> To: gary.duncanson@googlemail.com;
> cal_borci@hotmail.com> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE: Google
> Technical Interview> > From what I've heard, get ready for some "Network
> Trivia". > > > Michael Jones> Network Engineer> Global Network
> Operations>
> Dell Inc. | Information Technology> W. 512.723.3268 | C. 512.966.6908> >
> -----Original Message-----> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Gary> Duncanson> Sent:
> Friday,
> December 21, 2007 2:18 PM> To: Calvino Borcelli> Cc:
> ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Subject: Re: Google Technical Interview> > I was interviewed by a nice
> lady
> working for google. I think they could be> great to work for.> Their main
> hook is the culture there as opposed to high rates of pay so if> money is
> what you want don't expect lots and lots. Free table tennis and not> very
> high rates of pay. They are not keen on seniority and titles either. > Try
> banks instead if you want to earn loot.> > Gary> ----- Original Message
> -----> From:
> "Calvino
> Borcelli" <cal_borci@hotmail.com>> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>> Sent:
> Friday,
> December 21, 2007 7:14 PM> Subject: OT : Google Technical Interview> > >
>>
> Hello Everyone,> >> > I was wondering if anyone here has attended any
> interviews with google> for> > network positions ? I hear that their
> interviews are quite creative.> Could> > anyone be kind enough to give me
> some clues about what to expect.> >> > Thanks Very Much,> >> > Calvino.> >
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