From: Tim (ccie2be@nyc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Jan 13 2008 - 16:23:48 ARST
Hey Ethan,
Haven't you ever seen a movie about a teacher inspiring students to achieve
far beyond their wildest dreams?
Your question infers an equality of ability among ccie wannabes which is
certainly not the case.
Not all people have a great aptitude for networking technology. For some of
us, it's very difficult to master all the knowledge required to become a
ccie. For some of us, it's very difficult to read and understand everything
in the cisco documentation and Cisco Press books. For some of us, it's very
difficult to intuitively know what's important to focus on and what doesn't
need as much of our attention.
If these issues aren't issues you have, than the cost-benefit of a bootcamp
results in it not being worthwhile for you which is fine. Maybe you're a
bit like Brian Dennis or Brain McGahan or Narbik. These guys apparently
don't need a Bootcamp to pass the lab. Maybe for these guys spending a week
in a bootcamp wouldn't provide them with as much knowledge as spending that
same amount of time just playing around with the equipment.
But, as someone who still finds mastering this technology quite challenging,
I can tell you from first hand experience that attending a bootcamp with a
great instructor is priceless.
If you were an instructor, you would know, different people learn in
different ways and at different paces. Some people learn from hearing the
spoken word, some learn much better from seeing examples. Still others only
really learn this stuff from doing hands-on exercises which include lots of
trail and error.
Besides learning a thing or two about networking on my way to earning a
ccie, I developed a great deal of humility. I learned a great deal about
how much I don't know and I learned that to become a ccie, you don't have to
be a networking genius but you have to be committed to achieving this goal
and you have to have tenacity.
Jim Feldman
Ccie 15085
Skyline-ATS Instructor
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Banks, Ethan
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:06 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: 'Narbik Kocharians bootcamp feedbak ?
|I don't mean to be a stickler here, but why do people take bootcamps?
|
|Why not just learn the material, come here, ask questions, go
|back and learn some more and then pass!
A bootcamp should give me the time I need away from work and family to get a
lot of effective studying done in a compressed amount of time. I've been at
this for over a year now, and my wife and kids would like to have me back.
A bootcamp is going to help me pass the lab sooner rather than later.
|I don't think I could stand being in a room where someone raises their hand
|and asks "what a DHCP option?" or "Why do we use route reflectors?" for 2
|seconds, I don't know about you guys!
I agree here, but I'm not expecting those kinds of people to show up at a
CCIE lab bootcamp. I'm expecting people who are deep into their studies to
show up. Perhaps I'm naove.
/Ethan
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