Re: CCIE Bootcamp recommendations

From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Jan 07 2008 - 23:43:52 ARST


I just received word 3 of 5 people recently passed the
lab from one of Narbik's Bootcamps. 2 of whom were
1st timers.

Now that does not mean that a person does not use
other resources either. But it is a very nice to see
that he's doing a pretty good job of getting some
facts across.

Sometimes people bond with some instructors better
than others.

On this list there are many great instructors.

--- backbone systems <backbone.systems@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> If u r talking about Narbik ; i can give some
> useful information . A great
> person and a great instructor . I attended his
> bootcamp a few months ago and
> it was fantastic. The bootcamp covers the Blue
> Print end to end and the
> great thing is that Narbik never uses Power Point
> Slides so u don't get any
> chance to sleep.
>
> If u have seen the Advanced Routing and Switching
> workbook u will notice
> that the idea of this workbook is too cover every
> command for each topic in
> the Command Reference. So at the end of each topic
> when u open the command
> reference u know the in and out's .
>
> One great thing about this workbook is that if u
> just read it from end to
> end u will understand everything as there is a lot
> of explanations as u go
> along .U do a lot of practice and hands on during
> the bootcamp + u get
> individual attention.
>
> As a person Narbik is a great man. Since my boot
> camp I have been in touch
> with him and he always prompts very well to all my
> stupid questions. I will
> highly recommend anyone to attend his boot camp and
> its very cheap as
> compared to other vendors.
>
>
> HTH
>
>
> BB
>
>
> On Jan 4, 2008 4:43 PM, Santi <ccie@texas.net>
> wrote:
>
> > I have been to Narbik's class. I have also been
> to NetMasterClass. These
> > two teach in two very different formats and
> angles. I used also teach for
> > Cisco courses for GlobalNetTraining four years
> ago, before deploying to
> > Iraq. So, I can say I have been on both sides of
> the field.
> >
> > Narbik is the best CCIE instructor that I have
> seen. His format is that
> > he
> > assumes that you are AT LEAST at the CCNP level
> before you show up for his
> > class. He does not rehash the basics and he does
> not use PowerPoint. So,
> > some students will probably take many notes,
> predicate upon their level of
> > readiness. His class is primarily hands on. He
> cares very much about his
> > students progress, so he takes a personal interest
> them. He will spend as
> > much "individual" time and effort as possible
> making sure that the
> > students
> > understand the technology, as well as the
> application. He wants his
> > students
> > to be able to think their way through the lab.
> >
> > By the way, NetMasterClass does not teach by
> PowerPoint either. They will
> > give you handouts, but you will still write "MANY"
> notes. And NetMaster
> > is
> > just as brutal and coma inducing. So, in
> reference to format, your friend
> > probably was not adequately prepared for Narbik's
> class and he found out
> > the
> > hard way.
> >
> > Narbik's labs are excellent with all the
> technologies broken down, along
> > with explanations. The class I attended, at
> GlobalNetTraining, he taught
> > until midnight. It was the same in Pasedena, in
> that he was available
> > until
> > 12-1am each night.
> >
> > To make this even better, he allows his students
> to re-sit the class for
> > free. You just have to contact him to work out
> any details.
> >
> > His personality is great in that he is very
> relaxed and has a great sense
> > of
> > humor. Take this and combine it with the intensity
> of his instruction and
> > you have a hell of an instructor. With the amount
> of info a student has
> > to
> > take in, your brain starts to melt by Wednesday or
> Thursday night. You
> > want
> > an instructor who can pull you through. This man
> is the "Rainman" of
> > Cisco
> > in my opinion. If fact, he obtained this "honor"
> from a student I sat
> > next
> > to at GlobalNetTraining and it stuck with him ever
> since. The "Armenian
> > Rainman".
> >
> >
> > Santi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Sam
> > Eckert
> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:41 PM
> > To: 'Athaide, Dwayne'; 'groupstudy'
> > Subject: RE: CCIE Bootcamp recommendations
> >
> > My friend took a course with Narbik about a year
> and a half ago and said
> > the
> > class wasn't very good. He did not care for the
> format of the class. He
> > said
> > the class was too basic, he had to take a LOT of
> notes, and the class hand
> > outs were not very good. On the flip said he said
> that Narbik has a great
> > personality and would be a good CCNA instructor. I
> have also never heard
> > of
> > the company you are mentioning below, so I would
> be very careful. I'd
> > suggest looking at more established companies like
> IPExpert,
> > InternetworkExpert, CCBootcamp, or NetmasterClass.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Athaide, Dwayne
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:51 AM
> > To: groupstudy
> > Subject: CCIE Bootcamp recommendations
> >
> > Group
> >
> > Based on your experience with the boot camps which
> one would you
> > recommend? I've noticed the one taught by Narbik
> Kocharians is priced
> > very reasonable compared to IPExpert and
> InternetworkExpert.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
http://www.micronicstraining.com/ccie-routing-switching-lab.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
>



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